Anyone heard of Shieldtex/Turner enterprises? and general advice on rendering needed.

ewcs

PenelopePittstop wrote: »

"Yes - if you do happen to be Mr Turner or one of his friends go and spam elsewhere please! If you are not then don't be taken in by this expensive garbage that really does nothing for your home".

No I'm not Mr Turner or one of his friends and I certainly don't have £10,000s to throw away on expensive coatings either which may not be suitable. I have an old house which needs some TLC and thought I would Google Shield Tex before I picked up the phone (which I won't be doing now until I have done some more research) and this forum was listed. It was an honest post from a 50 something first time lady poster. My house is brick under the render and the render isnt bad except around the top of windows and one corner low down where it has been knocked - so shouldnt be too hard to patch - its just making sure I get the same degree of texture as the rest as its quite knobbly. Then I guess I'll be looking for a painter instead which should save me a few bob instead of putting the old shack in a plastic mac.

Don`t pick up the phone and ring shield tex for a quote, they will send out a sales manager who has been on a weeks training course with no knowledge of the materials used, they have never picked up a trowel in their life.
They will start off around £12000, offer you a discount to be a show house, now around £9000, discount for this and that and bottom price £6000 plus. And thats just for the front of a property.
There only interest is top price equals more commission, they will sell to you for £6500 then go next door to a neighbour with an identical house and sell at £9000 if they can.

ewcs

ewcs wrote: »

Don`t pick up the phone and ring shield tex for a quote, they will send out a sales manager who has been on a weeks training course with no knowledge of the materials used, they have never picked up a trowel in their life.
They will start off around £12000, offer you a discount to be a show house, now around £9000, discount for this and that and bottom price £6000 plus. And thats just for the front of a property.
There only interest is top price equals more commission, they will sell to you for £6500 then go next door to a neighbour with an identical house and sell at £9000 if they can.

You have also stated a quoted price £10000 you recieved, this is high also,a three bed semi can be completed for around £5/£6k in these systems

ewcs

keystone wrote: »

Seeing as you like to shout. BECAUSE THESE DEVELOPMENTS ARE DESIGNED FOR THE USE OF THESE COATINGS FROM THE OUTSET.

anyway this thread is really about the dubious marketing and sales practices of these vipers charging amounts that border on theft. Isn't it?

Cheers

WHAT, so 40/50/60 year old council properties where built back then ready to take these 2010 systems were they, my my they were clever thinking of that weren`t they.

And also this thread is also about giving out advise, i have used most of these systems on both new & OLD properties, there are many a different system designed to be applied to many a different substrate.

PenelopePittstop_2

Thanks to all of you guys - we won't be using any of these folks. Looks like it is not the right thing for our age of house anyway and we don't have money to burn.

Plasterer

ewcs wrote: »

total pants, go double check all beaded areas, drip, reveal, head will have a crack, i don`t say you ain`t doing it right, i`ve been plastering 32 years. All beaded areas crack no matter how fine the cracks may be, these are known as stress areas.
I worked in germany with these systems before they came to the uk, they out last, out perform and protect a property.
Sand & cement on developments is NO LONGER used, why is that? could it be these systems are proven to be better, or are all these developers wrong?

By the way i'm not slagging K rend off as I said in an earlier post its a great product, I'm just not ready to give sand and cement up when theres f all wrong with it!!!!!

Jeez, My Grandfather would be flipping in his grave

Ever been to a spa town? Lets take for example Cheltenham, Lovely old Rendererd buildings (90% of them) I'm quite supprised that the whole high street isnt constantly wrapped in scaffolding!?! I'm thinking its you thats talking pants pal. 32 years in the trade? more like a fortnight at college. Idiot!

PS Own Plastering company for 15 years, 4 lads on the books, biggest contract Nuneaton Courts £190K. You kind of only get contracts like this when you know what your talking about. Anyway, the suns out so i'm of for a dip in my pool I refurbed at the beggining of summer.

keystone

ewcs wrote: »

WHAT, so 40/50/60 year old council properties where built back then ready to take these 2010 systems were they, my my they were clever thinking of that weren`t they.

LoL. Of course they weren't and thats just my point. Do you have a problem with your reading?

i have used most of these systems on both new & OLD properties, there are many a different system designed to be applied to many a different substrate.

Ah! Don't work for Mr Turner do you?

Cheers

keystone

ewcs wrote: »

You have also stated a quoted price £10000 you recieved, this is high also,a three bed semi can be completed for around £5/£6k in these systems

Which is probably 3 x what they should be charging. Lets see - mask up, spray it on, few hundred quids worth of materials plus 2 or 3 man days effort and stuffing great big greedy margin to get to a £ 6K price tag. What a thoroughly nasty, thieving ripoff!

Cheers

ewcs

Plasterer wrote: »

By the way i'm not slagging K rend off as I said in an earlier post its a great product, I'm just not ready to give sand and cement up when theres f all wrong with it!!!!!

Jeez, My Grandfather would be flipping in his grave

Ever been to a spa town? Lets take for example Cheltenham, Lovely old Rendererd buildings (90% of them) I'm quite supprised that the whole high street isnt constantly wrapped in scaffolding!?! I'm thinking its you thats talking pants pal. 32 years in the trade? more like a fortnight at college. Idiot!

PS Own Plastering company for 15 years, 4 lads on the books, biggest contract Nuneaton Courts £190K. You kind of only get contracts like this when you know what your talking about. Anyway, the suns out so i'm of for a dip in my pool I refurbed at the beggining of summer.

cool enjoy your dip, vodaphone HQ 230,000

ewcs

keystone wrote: »

LoL. Of course they weren't and thats just my point. Do you have a problem with your reading?

Ah! Don't work for Mr Turner do you?

Cheers

no problem with my reading at all, no they were not built with these new systems in mind, yet local councils throughout the uk are using these systems on properties 40/50/60 years old an i sure as hell aint seen no new council estates being built in the last 30 years, so im guessing these houses must be what! mmm 40 50 years old.

ewcs

keystone wrote: »

Which is probably 3 x what they should be charging. Lets see - mask up, spray it on, few hundred quids worth of materials plus 2 or 3 man days effort and stuffing great big greedy margin to get to a £ 6K price tag. What a thoroughly nasty, thieving ripoff!

Cheers

just what i mean, another ignorant one, has no idea about these systems, come on then know all, How much a bag does it cost? Then how many needed? how much per 20 litre colour tubs?
A few hundred quid for materials, we aint talking 2 ton of sand and a few bags of cement and kick in the mixer, move with the times, these systems are dearer than your prehistoric standard sand & cement but offer much more to help with the thermal and insulation of a property. You get what you pay 4, and if you do a 3 bed semi (100/110 mtr) in 3 days come work 4 me, we take six.