Inappropriate behaviour from a child in dd's class. How would you feel?

Bitsy_Beans

Jakesmummy wrote: »

Has the OP mentioned what she meant by touching other children? wasnt knocking freebiequeen but if it is innocent it just seems over the top imo, obviously the school will know if its needed to bring this CUSAB into play as we dont know the full picture,

OP hasn't mentioned what sort of touching went on and if it hadn't been mentioned I would have assumed like all little boys he's obssessed with his willy (I know my DS is at times). I would assume the teacher would monitor his behaviour after speaking to the parents and make a call based on what they saw. Whether we like it or not Safeguarding children is a big issue and after recent cases I suspect places like schools now have policies in place to deal with these sorts of things.

Bitsy_Beans

jamespir wrote: »

thats only because of the propaganda that were fed every single day in the papers and on tv


it shows you how parnoid people have got i took my lad(about 1 year ago) to a resteraunt and he needed his nappy changing so i went to get the key to the baby changing room and was told i couldnt have it because i was a man and i could be a peadophile

its disgusting to be honest

Well I don't watch the news or read the papers so I am not being fed anything I've had to attend safeguarding training for my job and it had sod all to do with the media it was first and foremost about keeping children safe. Is that really such a bad thing? Nor do I think that there is a pa edophile round every corner.

As for the resturant I agree that was disgusting behaviour and you should have complained to the manager. Baby changing is for ANY parent not just women. Likewise recent case of abuse by that female nursery worker shows that abuse is not always perpetrated by males.

teabythesea

Safeguarding is a load of old rubbish. It is 'meant' to protect the child but when has it really? It's in place to safe guard the adult from having accusations made against them. Like now if you're a male and want to have a word with a female pupil you have to do it infront of everyone or do it with the door open and a distance between the two. I've also done safeguarding and it's generally down to opinion really.

jamespir

Bitsy_Beans wrote: »

Well I don't watch the news or read the papers so I am not being fed anything I've had to attend safeguarding training for my job and it had sod all to do with the media it was first and foremost about keeping children safe. Is that really such a bad thing? Nor do I think that there is a pa edophile round every corner.

As for the resturant I agree that was disgusting behaviour and you should have complained to the manager. Baby changing is for ANY parent not just women. Likewise recent case of abuse by that female nursery worker shows that abuse is not always perpetrated by males.

not a bad thing though we all like to keep our kids safe i do think that all this H&S and safeguard training is taking it too far

i dont think you need some governing body where most of them have never had kids tell you how to look after your kids

were all do parenting different

gingin_2

I kind of tried to bow out of the thread because, like many, when it gets huge, things get taken out if context and assumptions get made and it kind of becomes fruitless - that's not to say that I am not very grateful for the advice given to me, particularly yesterday, when I was most worked up.

To clear up a few things - Yes it was definitely my issue rather than my daughter's but I know that it has also bugged other parents ( I will not mention my incident, nor will I participate in any playground gossip). This sort of behaviour has also continued today with the same child. I don't really want to continue to discuss/ pull him apart on here because a) I don't know him or the events well enough and b) I am confident the teachers will deal with this. I was more looking for advice on how I personally deal with it. Since my initial posts I am happy with the way the teacher has dealt with it and left it there.

Another question is, for all who say this is acceptable, when do you say it does become unacceptable (genuine curious question)? I am certainly uncomfortable about it, I would really rather it didn't happen. It's definitely not done in a jovial way, it's done for a reaction. He's been warned enough times before about it. It's the same as hitting and name calling - it's not acceptable as adults, so when do you say with a child that enough is enough?

Bitsy_Beans

jamespir wrote: »

not a bad thing though we all like to keep our kids safe i do think that all this H&S and safeguard training is taking it too far

i dont think you need some governing body where most of them have never had kids tell you how to look after your kids

were all do parenting different

Yeah but Safeguarding training isn't for parents it's for people who are responsible for looking after other peoples children.
I am not sure why people assume that once Safeguarding is mentioned then all common sense and judgment flies out the window and that it's all about separating families when in actual fact the opposite is true.

teabythesea - I can't comment on Safeguarding for school age pupils as I haven't done it. Mine was for young children and perfectly relevant. It wasn't about all about protecting myself (that wasn't much of it at all) but pretty much about protecting children. As for whether it keeps children safe? Not sure I don't have any stats to prove that one way or another. Clearly recent cases have highlighted failures to protect children but since when do the media report cases when it has worked?

jamespir

gingin wrote: »

I kind of tried to bow out of the thread because, like many, when it gets huge, things get taken out if context and assumptions get made and it kind of becomes fruitless - that's not to say that I am not very grateful for the advice given to me, particularly yesterday, when I was most worked up.

To clear up a few things - Yes it was definitely my issue rather than my daughter's but I know that it has also bugged other parents ( I will not mention my incident, nor will I participate in any playground gossip). This sort of behaviour has also continued today with the same child. I don't really want to continue to discuss/ pull him apart on here because a) I don't know him or the events well enough and b) I am confident the teachers will deal with this. I was more looking for advice on how I personally deal with it. Since my initial posts I am happy with the way the teacher has dealt with it and left it there.

Another question is, for all who say this is acceptable, when do you say it does become unacceptable (genuine curious question)? I am certainly uncomfortable about it, I would really rather it didn't happen. It's definitely not done in a jovial way, it's done for a reaction. He's been warned enough times before about it. It's the same as hitting and name calling - it's not acceptable as adults, so when do you say with a child that enough is enough?

if it's continues then i think his parents need to do something to prevent him being able to get his trousers down and get access to his genitals ie a tight belt or sowing the zip up on his trousers

Bitsy_Beans

jamespir wrote: »

if it's continues then i think his parents need to do something to prevent him being able to get his trousers down and get access to his genitals ie a tight belt or sowing the zip up on his trousers

How does he use the toilet then if he can't get his trousers down?

jamespir

Bitsy_Beans wrote: »

Yeah but Safeguarding training isn't for parents it's for people who are responsible for looking after other peoples children.
I am not sure why people assume that once Safeguarding is mentioned then all common sense and judgment flies out the window and that it's all about separating families when in actual fact the opposite is true.

teabythesea - I can't comment on Safeguarding for school age pupils as I haven't done it. Mine was for young children and perfectly relevant. It wasn't about all about protecting myself (that wasn't much of it at all) but pretty much about protecting children. As for whether it keeps children safe? Not sure I don't have any stats to prove that one way or another. Clearly recent cases have highlighted failures to protect children but since when do the media report cases when it has worked?

yes but by safeguarding there taking everything away that it means to be a child just in case it may offend or cause risk to a child

jamespir

Bitsy_Beans wrote: »

How does he use the toilet then if he can't get his trousers down?

an adult would do it for him