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Today I put my 5yo ds over my knee & smacked his bare bum - I'm mortified with myself

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  • pigpen
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    vixarooni wrote: »
    I think you need smacking and words to discipline children. I was smacked and ive been been in a physical fight or done anything bad most of my life!

    I hate namby pamby parenting, i work in a shop and see it constantly! "Ohh jonny dont do that" and they carry on.......and the parents repeat it and they carry on... and then we need to step in because they cant control their offpsring. Its awful the parenting now a days, no child will ever have a strong authorititive figure in there lives and im looking forward to seeing the result of this later in life when they get a job or something.

    While in tesco a few weeks back there was an announcement..

    'Could all parents of small children please supervise them and keep them with them at all times and not allow them to run about the store as staff cannot be held responsible for any incidents which may occur.'

    My bunch were safely depositted at school :D but there was one couple who had 3 or 4 children.. mostly of school age so had no reason to not be there.. running circuits around the shop.. I'd have thrown them out!
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  • honeyD
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    vixarooni wrote: »
    I think you need smacking and words to discipline children. I was smacked and ive been been in a physical fight or done anything bad most of my life!

    Only most of your life? :eek:


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  • bestpud
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    pigpen wrote: »
    While in tesco a few weeks back there was an announcement..

    'Could all parents of small children please supervise them and keep them with them at all times and not allow them to run about the store as staff cannot be held responsible for any incidents which may occur.'

    My bunch were safely depositted at school :D but there was one couple who had 3 or 4 children.. mostly of school age so had no reason to not be there.. running circuits around the shop.. I'd have thrown them out!

    My sister's children ran wild in shops when they were younger but she uses smacking to discipline them.

    Mine have never been allowed to behave that way and I don't smack them...

    Interestingly, when my dd is with my sister she also runs around the shop, but my niece and nephew don't behave like that when with me!

    I realise views are strong when it comes to discipline but I wonder why you are using that to argue the children need a smack?

    How do you know they aren't, or weren't smacked while out of your sight? Maybe they are but have just become immune to it? Some children do!

    That's a genuine question btw. :)
  • CRANKY40
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    I don't smack for general naughtiness. I have smacked my son on the handful of occasions he has caused pain on purpose. The first time was when he was two. I wear spectacles, and he was objecting to something I'd asked him to do. He hit me in the face with a metal helicopter - that could have been really nasty. I smacked him because he really hurt me, and I have to admit that was a "knee jerk" reaction. That was when I formulated the plan that if he hurt anyone on purpose he was going to get the same back so he knew what it felt like. He is now five and I have smacked him twice more. Once when he was three and he bit me and once last May when he belted his little chum with a plastic golf club in our garden.

    As I've only smacked him three times I feel that I can assume that he now understands that doing certain things causes pain and should not be repeated. I've never smacked him for naughtiness as I can usually think of something that will upset him more. He hates not being allowed to play with his friends, and we have now reached the ultimate threat of no computer if he really winds me up.

    Incidentally, my dad believed in smacking for serious offences. I can remember it happening twice.
  • bestpud
    bestpud Posts: 11,048 Forumite
    vixarooni wrote: »
    I think you need smacking and words to discipline children. I was smacked and ive been been in a physical fight or done anything bad most of my life!

    I hate namby pamby parenting, i work in a shop and see it constantly! "Ohh jonny dont do that" and they carry on.......and the parents repeat it and they carry on... and then we need to step in because they cant control their offpsring. Its awful the parenting now a days, no child will ever have a strong authorititive figure in there lives and im looking forward to seeing the result of this later in life when they get a job or something.

    I agree with the bold bit - that annoys me too!

    I was in front of a mother in the cinema last weekend and she must have told her dd 20 times they would go home if she didn't behave, but it made no difference whatsoever.

    She must have played up through the film too as we passed her on the way out and she had said dd to one side and was telling her she will never, ever take her to the cinema again as she is too naughty!

    I bet she does though and what does that teach her dd?
  • gingin_2
    gingin_2 Posts: 2,992 Forumite
    vixarooni wrote: »
    I think you need smacking and words to discipline children. I was smacked and ive been been in a physical fight or done anything bad most of my life!

    I hate namby pamby parenting, i work in a shop and see it constantly! "Ohh jonny dont do that" and they carry on.......and the parents repeat it and they carry on... and then we need to step in because they cant control their offpsring. Its awful the parenting now a days, no child will ever have a strong authorititive figure in there lives and im looking forward to seeing the result of this later in life when they get a job or something.

    What's to say that Johnny's mum doesn't give him a good wallop when he gets home, because she's too afraid to do it in public? How would you feel if Johnny did get a wallop in the shop? Maybe Johnny only asociates bad behaviour with a smack and because he didn't get one from mum he carries on?

    How many people who are pro smacking would honestly do it in a shop?
  • ["A shout, or sharp knock on something loud, could shock a child if that is the desired effect so why does it have to be a smack?"]

    I have to say; for me this kind of thing is much worse than a smack on the behind. I was a moderately naughty child and vaguely remember being smacked on the behind a few times, it didn't really bother me that much. But what has really affected me to this very day (I'm 31) is the fact that my mum used to shout a lot and knock on something loudly to get my attention if I was misbehaving; if I hear a loud noise or raised voices it sets me on edge instantly!
  • I wasnt smacked often as a child but I can tell you even to this day what I was smacked for - there was the time I lost my wee sister, the time I painted the dog, the time I laughed at my sister getting smacked, the time I made my bed and hid to pretend that I had run away.

    I have never once felt abused or violated because I was smacked and in fact the fear of a smack was enough to get me to behave - same with my wee sister.

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    bestpud wrote: »
    I was in front of a mother in the cinema last weekend and she must have told her dd 20 times they would go home if she didn't behave, but it made no difference whatsoever.

    She must have played up through the film too as we passed her on the way out and she had said dd to one side and was telling her she will never, ever take her to the cinema again as she is too naughty!

    I went to the pictures a few months ago and a small child (5/6) ran down the isle, along the front, up the next isle, along the back and repeat. He spent a good 20 mins running around and the mother of the child did nothing - I had to burst out laughing (as did everyone else) when the wee sh*t tripped over and fell and started crying - his mum took him out quick enough when she realised that the whole cinema was laughing and clapping at the son.
  • tandraig
    tandraig Posts: 2,260 Forumite
    edited 1 February 2010 at 10:59PM
    I lost it with No1 son - my father died suddenly and i returned home to find police there - No1 son had been stealing car badges - and i just lost it and slapped him round the face. as soon as i did it i regretted it! but he still remembers it as only time i hit him! he made sure he never ran foul of the law (or me) again - but said it took him years to understand why I reacted as I did - and now he is a dad he understands totally! and I have always regretted hitting him.
    I used to get a slap round face or legs or bum - and my mum says I was a good kid! I always swore my kids wouldnt get hit! then i went and hit one! I hated myself and as at the time i grieved for my dad - who i adored, that was a bad time for me.
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