Do I have right to take my daughter on holiday?

notakid

lindsaygalaxy wrote: »

Sorry but I think 10 days is too long for a child that young to be away from her mother that she sees everyday.

Why? She will be with her Daddy, who would like to see her everyday!

snowmaid

notakid wrote: »

Why? She will be with her Daddy, who would like to see her everyday!

Terribly sorry, but a child of 2 usually forms the bond with the mother. This is normal. Not saying that Dad's don't bond, but a woman is the nurturer. Her hormones will ensure that the new offspring is given the comfort etc that it needs. That is why we cry more easily during chick flicks etc.

Modern day enthusiasts will try and turn this on it's head so that there can equal bonding but at the end of the day the child, at that age, will bond with it's mother. Doesn't mean it loves daddy any less, just that mommy is the one who is soft and cuddly.

Of course, there are always exceptions to the rule where the mother may not have bonded as much with the child or where the mom may have left the child with the dad, in which case the child would understandably bond with the dad.

Then they get to my youngest child's age of 11 where the bond between him and his dad is incredible. When he was younger, he wouldn't be separated from me at all.

But now, if we had to get divorced I would never dream of taking my youngest as that would be a tragedy. I know he would be happier with his dad than me. Not that he loves me less, but he has a stronger bond with his dad.

ninky_2

snowmaid wrote: »

Terribly sorry, but a child of 2 usually forms the bond with the mother. This is normal. Not saying that Dad's don't bond, but a woman is the nurturer. Her hormones will ensure that the new offspring is given the comfort etc that it needs. That is why we cry more easily during chick flicks etc.

Modern day enthusiasts will try and turn this on it's head so that there can equal bonding but at the end of the day the child, at that age, will bond with it's mother. Doesn't mean it loves daddy any less, just that mommy is the one who is soft and cuddly.

Of course, there are always exceptions to the rule where the mother may not have bonded as much with the child or where the mom may have left the child with the dad, in which case the child would understandably bond with the dad.

Then they get to my youngest child's age of 11 where the bond between him and his dad is incredible. When he was younger, he wouldn't be separated from me at all.

But now, if we had to get divorced I would never dream of taking my youngest as that would be a tragedy. I know he would be happier with his dad than me. Not that he loves me less, but he has a stronger bond with his dad.

so what happens to those who only have a father or have 2 fathers (gay dads)?

MrsAnnie

Personally I would not want to send my DD on holiday with her dad if he was unstable. i.e. He loves me, he hates me, he wants to see me dead, wants himself to be dead, needs to keep his cool etc etc. I would want the whole situation die down before I let him take DD out of the country to stay in the family home that is not in the UK, so that I could sleep at night knowing that he was going to return.


IMO two years old IS too young to be apart from her mother for an extended period of time. At that age toddlers do not reason that they will see mummy again, just that mummy is not there, as usual, to provide comfort and nurturing. As therefore temporary seperation can be quite tramatic for babies and very small children.

MrsAnnie

ninky wrote: »

so what happens to those who only have a father or have 2 fathers (gay dads)?

Snowmaid did say there were always exceptions.

red_devil

MrsAnnie wrote: »

Personally I would not want to send my DD on holiday with her dad if he was unstable. i.e. He loves me, he hates me, he wants to see me dead, wants himself to be dead, needs to keep his cool etc etc. I would want the whole situation die down before I let him take DD out of the country to stay in the family home that is not in the UK, so that I could sleep at night knowing that he was going to return.


IMO two years old IS too young to be apart from her mother for an extended period of time. At that age toddlers do not reason that they will see mummy again, just that mummy is not there, as usual, to provide comfort and nurturing. As therefore temporary seperation can be quite tramatic for babies and very small children.

I was separated for a while from my toddler a long time ago. He was in the good hands of grandparents and no harm done. They really enjoyed it too and kept me a book of all they had done etc.

Load of rot saying kids cant be separated from one parent for a while think its unhealthy actually to take that stance.

shellsuit

When I split up with the kids Dad, he wanted to take them away on holiday.

I refused because he was a drinker and didn't trust him (that's why I ended things)

He offered to pay for me too, so I said Yes but seperate rooms.

In the end, we all went (had the seperate rooms) and had a brill time. Nothing happened, we were still split and still went our own ways when we got back, but it was good for the kids to see us getting on.

Sometimes you have to remember you are the adults and should be doing the best for the child/ren.

Is there any way you can all still go on the holiday so that your child doesn't miss out???

basil1998

elainew wrote: »

Do you automatically get parental responsibility just because you are on the birth certificate? I didnt think you did?

no you dont if you are not marry . me and my partner been together for 18 years and have a daughter but he has no parental rights. so if he took the kid he could get done

Mme.Hibou

basil1998 wrote: »

no you dont if you are not marry . me and my partner been together for 18 years and have a daughter but he has no parental rights. so if he took the kid he could get done

The father doesn't have parental responsibility if they weren't married at the time of the child's birth and that child was born before 1st December 2003. After 1st December 2003, if a couple is unmarried, but are both named on the birth certificate, they both have full parental responsibility.

notakid

MrsAnnie wrote: »

Snowmaid did say there were always exceptions.

Exactly, and thats why a blanket statement expressed that a child shouldn't be separated from its Mother for ten days is wrong.

A child bonds with lots of people and if good care is taken of the child of course it won't hurt a child to be away from their mother for 10 days!

From the OP it seems that the father here is the more level headed and mature adult in this family unit. There is no reason to deny him access to his daugher for 10 days just because he is a male.