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parking ticket from excel parking services limited
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I have just been speaking to a friend of mine Excel told her that if she had outstanding fines and she used their car park they would clamp her! Dont know what do do now?
What's happened to the British backbone over the years?
DO NOT let them initimidate you or your colleagues, they are only words with no meaning what they spout to your friend. They CANNOT clamp you or anyone else for that matter regarding an alleged "debt". There is NO debt whatsoever.
Do what i do and print what's written below off and stick it on as many cars as you can. Supermarkets are the best places i find and if you want to have a bit of fun like i do, give one to the chimp who works for a PPC and watch them go mental. They don't like it up 'em. Relax don't worry and don't be initimidated by empty threats. turn the table on them and laugh in their faces, i do.PRIVATE PARKING TICKETS - DON'T PAY!IT IS NOT A FINE! YOU HAVE DONE NOTHING ILLEGAL!This is an information page for the thousands of people who receive "tickets" from private companies in the UK ever day at supermarkets, retail parks, and in any other privately-owned carpark.We are NOT encouraging anybody to openly flout parking restrictions on private land, or to refuse to pay reasonable charges for parking. Landowners have a right to make reasonable charges for the use of their land.For advice specific to your case, you should visit the forums at http://forums.pepipoo.com or http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/parking-traffic-offences.
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1631. What you should know about these companiesIt is important to remember that private parking companies (or PPCs as they are often called) have NO OFFICIAL POWERS - that's right, none at all! They give out their "tickets" on the basis that you have seen the signs in their car park and that you have therefore agreed to a contract obliging you to pay a certain sum of money.2. What happens to people who don't pay?In 99.9% of cases, absolutely NOTHING! The company pays the DVLA £2.50 to get your address, and then sends lots of threatening letters. In the main, these letters can be safely IGNORED. The only way the company can actually force you to pay is by taking you to the small claims court, which costs them even more money. And they are by no means guaranteed to win! And they practically never do.The two main reasons for this (among others) are the following:- Only the person DRIVING the car could ever have agreed to any such parking contract. The company can only get the Registered Keeper's address from the DVLA: you don't have to tell them who was driving.-Many of these charges are so extortionately high that they constitute a penalty, which is unenforceable in a consumer contract.3. Can they affect my credit rating?NO! The only way your credit rating could be affected by ignoring private parking companies is if you were taken to court, lost, and then still refused to pay. But they will not take you to court.IN SHORTThe vast majority of the time, you can safely IGNORE tickets from private parking companies, they are not official fines.The vast majority of the time, you can safely IGNORE the threatening letters, including those from debt collection agencies.You DO NOT have to pay a penny of your hard-earned money to these companies. Remember that the chances of being taken to court are very slim indeed.DO NOT IGNORE COURT PAPERS!
If you receive real court papers from a private parking company (very rare) then you should go to http://forums.pepipoo.com or http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/parking-traffic-offences for help defending the claim. Do not be afraid to sign up and ask questions regarding any paperwork you are not sure about.Don’t believe the above? Watch a solicitor on Watchdog advising you what to do with the scam invoices.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAIcdi9niHA
THEY ARE NOT FINES
Only the Police, Courts or Council’s can fine you. NOT a private company, please remember that.0 -
trisontana wrote: »For a start they are not "fines" and if Excel did clamp her they would be breaking the law.
The wording on the Excel Parking sign is
"WHEEL CLAMPING AND VEHICLE REMOVAL IN OPERATION. VEHICLES MAY BE WHEEL CLAMPED AND/OR REMOVED AND IMPOUNDED FOR PARKINGCONTRAVENTIONS OR WHERE PRIOR CONTRAVENTIONS REMAIN UNSETTLED"
It then goes on to list all sorts of huge fees.
Are you telling me that if I dont pay this fee but continue to park there they wont clamp me or are you telling me if they do they are breaking the law?
If the latter is the case what do I do if I do find my car clamped?0 -
The wording on the Excel Parking sign is
"WHEEL CLAMPING AND VEHICLE REMOVAL IN OPERATION. VEHICLES MAY BE WHEEL CLAMPED AND/OR REMOVED AND IMPOUNDED FOR PARKINGCONTRAVENTIONS OR WHERE PRIOR CONTRAVENTIONS REMAIN UNSETTLED"
It then goes on to list all sorts of huge fees.
Are you telling me that if I dont pay this fee but continue to park there they wont clamp me or are you telling me if they do they are breaking the law?
If the latter is the case what do I do if I do find my car clamped?
Yes, they are breaking the law if the try and clamp a vehicle for an alleged "debt".What part of "A whop bop-a-lu a whop bam boo" don't you understand?0 -
trisontana wrote: »Yes, they are breaking the law if the try and clamp a vehicle for an alleged "debt".
But what do I do if I come out of work one day and my car has been clamped?0 -
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trisontana wrote: »Cut the lock off with an angle grinder and report Excell to the police, trading standards, the BPA and the DTI,
And now a serious answer? ha ha
Who are the BPA and the DTI?0 -
British Parking Association (the parking "industry" trade association)
Department of Trade and Industry.
I would,t get too worried over this scenario. It just won't happen.What part of "A whop bop-a-lu a whop bam boo" don't you understand?0 -
trisontana wrote: »British Parking Association (the parking "industry" trade association)
Department of Trade and Industry.
I would,t get too worried over this scenario. It just won't happen.
Really worried so I have e-mailed our city police force and asked them what to so in this scenario.
I have no intention of paying this fee but dont have the time to be dealing with a clamped/towed car. Just because Excel would be breaking the law by clamping/towing my car doesnt mean they wont do it!0 -
I thought you said at first that the signs had nothing about clamping on them?
And the Police cannot help you, they'll tell you it's a civil matter and/or quite possibly will get it wrong and say clamping's not illegal yet. In fact it is IS illegal to clamp to force payment of an alleged debt.
And in case you are wondering, don't bother with the CAB, they are hopeless with their understanding of this matter.
If in the unlikely event that it happened you should either cut the padlock off (that WAS a serious answer!) or sit in the car and call the Police, calmly pointing out it's not legal. Or take a day or so to get an injunction to force them to return your car, or pay under protest and then sue them and whichever sad company contracted them.
Stop panicking. I still park every week where my vehicle got a PPC ticket and of course I ignored it, so do loads of people on these forums. Sometimes us regular posters deliberately bait PPCs by going back to the same car parks and parking over lines, overstaying etc just to waste their time and money. Scammers deserve it.PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
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trisontana wrote: »Yes, they are breaking the law if the try and clamp a vehicle for an alleged "debt".
In fact, they could well be breaking the law by threatening to break the law!0
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