Fed up vegetarian needs advice please

ailuro2

Disgruntled_Veggie wrote: »

He ate both of the pizzas last night and the funny thing is that he had bad diarrhoea this morning and was locked in the bathroom for quite a while. It didn't even occur to me at the time that it might be connected - maybe it isn't and is just an amusing coincidence for me, but it has cheered me up a bit now.

This is the second time today I've mentioned Karma - what goes around comes around - and in your DH's case, pretty quickly!:rotfl:

If I were vegetarian then I'd feel the same way as you, and have separate prep areas for the food.I'd not be cooking meat either, though, as to go veggie I'd do it 100%.

But you handle meat etc, for your family, and without wanting to sound too pedantic doesn't 65% of anything that comes into contact with your skin get absorbed? If he had been prepping something for you and there had used the meat board but it was clean, how would you have viewed that? Your DH sounds like he didn't really understand what he was doing.

I think your s-i-l is a separate issue - she obviously doesn't "get" vegetarianism, maybe thinks it's a bit faddy? Next time, invite her to yours, give her a casserole (if you're feeling really evil make it look a bit like cat food) serve it to her in a dish that has a picture of a cat painted in the bottom so she won't see it till she's eaten it - then if she asks, tell her you never had time to wash another dish, so just used Tiddles brekkies bowl instead!! Of course once she's finished being sick tell her of course it's new, and you just did it to prove your point.;)

You'll n ever be invited round to hers for tuna casserole again!!:rotfl:

Catzpaws

As a veggie, I totally agree with what's been said here. Sorry, but I think it's disgusting to simply expect you to eat something that has touched meat - never mind been contaminated with raw chicken and its juices.

No matter what personal principles someone abides by, I think others should respect them - surely!

I'm not surprised you feel violated... !

baby_fuzz

I'm not a veggie, but I am appalled by the raw-chicken juice, and the attitude of the OH & sister. Just because you are vegetarian, it should not give anyone a reason to ridicule you, or not respect your personal wishes.

RE the OH having food poisoning the next day, I believe that is called karma...

Greener_Grass

I'm all for revenge, Find out something SIL doesn't like, invite her round and serve her it hidden in something then see how she likes it

I think it's rediculous them saying "well you didn't even notice" about the bacon stock etc, I don't think you'll quite happily eat meat things if you don't notice they are meat! Complete lack of respect! :mad:

AbFab

Tom1234 wrote: »

Just to set the record straight, I believe in a 'blind taste test' he fed a vegitarian off the street what he thought was 'cheese and tomato pizza', only to find out afterwards that it had parma ham in it. He was shocked that the veggie guy didnt notice, but the guy didnt mind and just laughed it off.

It wasn't a case of feeding someone meat on purpose - so not really analogous to this situation.

Just to really set the record straight, it WAS an intentional act by Gordon Ramsay, and according to every report I've read, the vegetarian concerned did NOT laugh it off. Here is one link:
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1490038/Ramsays-pizza-joke-outrages-vegetarians.html

Gordon Ramsay has also admitted in an interview that he knowingly fed a group of vegetarians a soup that had been made with chicken stock.
www.femalefirst.co.uk/entertainment/Gordon+Ramsay-4946.html

He is a vile, obnoxious scumbag.

OP, your husband just sounds ignorant. But I do think you need to take control here and explain your position - you state you haven't really made a big deal about your vegetarianism - you haven't discussed your reasons for being vegetarian - perhaps for all he and his sister know, you wouldn't be that bothered if you occasionally had a bit of meat? Why have you not discussed this with them? Is it not quite an important part about who and what you are?
You need to tell them using contaminated cookware and utensils is NOT acceptable to you, and you do not eat meat, in any form, ever.

I would feel utterly violated if fed meat (or dairy - I am vegan) and should any so-called friend think it funny to try and trick me, we would no longer be friends. It's a little trickier for you, as this is family, but I do not think I'd trust them ever again.
Does your husband not respect you and your choices?

And @ the Yoga Instructor who posted earlier, are you a vegetarian, or are you someone who occasionally eats meat if offered it by friends?

londoner1998 wrote: »

I am a yoga practitioner and have been a vegetarian for quite a while now...

londoner1998 wrote: »

I have had the odd bit of meat if I got to eat at friends houses...

If you think it is "more important to share what they cooked for you", by all means do that, but please don't call yourself a vegetarian. Perhaps it's approaches like yours that've made the OP's in-laws think feeding her a little bit of meat here and there is acceptable. Please do not muddy the waters for the rest of us who stick to our principles - you are sending out the message that it's ok not to take our morals into consideration and we'll occasionally eat meat. Do your friends not respect your choice?

red_devil wrote: »

Always tickles me that one veggies expect a veggie dinner will they do you a meat one!:rolleyes:;)

I think you were being tongue-in-cheek, but this IS a comment I hear a lot.
I don't cook meat (or dairy) for any guests, ever. None of my friends would ever expect me to. It goes against everything I believe in regarding health, ethics and environment. The thought of touching rotting animal flesh repulses me. They are all happy to eat vegan when they come to mine for dinner. When I visit friends, they value me enough to cook something taking into consideration my values. No meat-eater I know has 'principles' against cooking vegetables. I, on the other hand, have principles against buying or cooking meat and dairy. That's the difference.

OP, I hope you get this resolved.

January20

Sorry I haven't read the whole thread and have no time because on my way to work but I am so incensed by what happened to you that I had to reply! (will catch up later!)

I am a meat eater but I have a couple of vegetarian friends, who are vegetarian for various reasons and I believe that the way your OH and his family are dealing with your lifestyle choice is appalling! I completely understand why you feel violated. Their attitude is simply ignorant and selfish.

Personally, I would go on strike and tell your OH that from now on he can cook his own meat dishes since your choices and wishes mean so little to him. Actually, it is possibly because you don't mind cooking meat dishes that him and his family don't think it's a big issue for you.

Tom1234

AbFab wrote: »

Just to really set the record straight, it WAS an intentional act by Gordon Ramsay, and according to every report I've read, the vegetarian concerned did NOT laugh it off. Here is one link:
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1490038/Ramsays-pizza-joke-outrages-vegetarians.html

Gordon Ramsay has also admitted in an interview that he knowingly fed a group of vegetarians a soup that had been made with chicken stock.
www.femalefirst.co.uk/entertainment/Gordon+Ramsay-4946.html

He is a vile, obnoxious scumbag.

Completely off topic but you're incorrect in this instance - as is the 'report' in the telegraph.

Coincidentally I watched that episode of Kitchen Nightmares 3 or 4 days ago (was re-watching them all on 4oD) and it's a genuine mistake. A young polish sous chef prepared the pizza, and as she'd never made pizza before, decided putting parma ham directly on the base (under the tomato sauce) was a good idea.

The two taste testers were brought in off the street and as one said he'd been vegitarian for a number of year, a comment was made about 'oh dear, well we've only got the one cheese and tomato, you'll have to just try that'. After he tried it and commented that it was his favorite, the young chef owned up to her mistake, GR apologised, and the guy (although disgruntled) laughed it off. GR then ASKED if he'd converted a vegetarian, the guy said no, GR made a comment along the lines of 'good luck with the vegimite then', and he left.

If you're going to post 'facts', it's probably better to watch the programme in question rather than rely on the 'reporting skills' of a paper like the Telegraph.

I agree, he's not the most charming character, but like I said, it's not really an analogous situation.

@ The OP - Speak to the SIL, there's no way you can go round there and eat again otherwise is there? If she has any respect for you, she'll apologise. If not, then at least you know where you stand.

I hope your OH is ok after his food poisoning. Much as it was deserved, it's not nice for anyone.

belfastgirl23

OP you have to tell us how the talk goes!

minerva_windsong

daska wrote: »

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

I understand that even cat food has to be fit for human consumption so I can't see how they could possibly complain... :eek:

maybe in a pasty?

So that's why it has to look nice on the adverts!

Disgruntled_Veggie

Morning all, thank you very much for your messages since last night. Well DH and I didn't say one word to each other last night. I got home from work armed with the printed thread and fired up and indignant but he literally walked out of the door as I was walking in. He got back home at 9pm and went straight up to bed - he was still quite pale and got up a few times in the night. It will keep though, I won't let this go.

I guess I have been compromising my principles for a long time now. I became a vegetarian when I was ten years old, purely for animal cruelty reasons (and the day after we had to dissect a mouse in a science lesson). As I was growing up I was expected to help my mum around the house and as the rest of the family were staunch omnivores, I continued to help her prepare and cook meat dishes. I have always and still do wear gloves when preparing meat and do have my limits, daft though they might sound, for example I couldn't prepare a chicken carcass, gut a fish or have anything to do with offal.

When I got married I continued to cook meat for my husband and to be honest I used to enjoy the pleasure he and dinner guests got from my meals as I have always enjoyed feeding people and looking after them. I was going to bring the children up as vegetarians but at the moment they are still babies and toddlers and as they were all low birth weight premmies, it has been difficult to get them to put on weight easily. They seem to really enjoy meat casseroles and dishes much more than most veggie meals, so I have continued to cook meat for them as well as veggie dishes. Hopefully when they are a bit older they will decide for themselves to become vegetarian.

I still feel awful about eating the meat, I don't understand how true vegetarians can eat meat occasionally. I remember watching I'm a Celebrity where Uri Geller (apparently a devout vegetarian) ate bugs and grubs as part of a task and it absolutely horrified me.

I did stop off at the supermarket this morning and now have a tin of Sheba in my bag - I don't know if I could do it but just having it amuses me!

Anyway, as DH went to bed so early last night I had time to do a spot of baking. I made a dozen chocolate chip cookies but - silly old me - I managed to accidentally make them on the same chopping board as I had accidentally been chopping up laxatives on just beforehand. I really don't know how I could have been so absent minded. :rolleyes:

xx