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  • CharlieBilly
    CharlieBilly Posts: 2,319 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts
    edited 5 October 2009 at 4:00PM
    I bet you download all you pirate stuff. I gonna contact Virgin media direct. {done}


    http://www.virginmedia.com/myvirginmedia/contact/complaint-feedback.php


    "
    Can anyone recommend a way to send faxes from my PC using my existing Virgin Media 50mb broadband"
    http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=509018


    MSE INSERT - IMAGE DELETED AS WAS TOO WIDE FOR THREAD
  • XLTradingUK
    XLTradingUK Posts: 72 Forumite
    edited 5 October 2009 at 3:48PM
    Although I am accusing no-one of nothing, here is an actual quote from the front page of www.xltrading.net




    ...what does that mean? :huh:

    Bit thick are you not :)
    Does it say supporters or sponsors...
    http://www.xltrading.net/images/blocks/1-1-piratebay.jpg or where the pic is located: http://xltrading.net/

    I dare you to imply that we get our stuff from Pirate Bay, I absolutely dare you to print this on here in front of the whole world to read. That would be total defamation because you could not prove it.
    And before we all incinuate we download items.. not at all.
    Again.. prove it people or it stays as defamation under legal law.
    socrates wrote: »
    That is a wonderful piece of detective work - the massive legal team must be so busy he is asking for help on message boards from strangers.
    What an absolute !!!!!!!

    I think you will find that could be Tim trying to sort all of this farce out.
    I do know he contacted SF in relation to changing the co.uk to the possible .net if necessary.

    Again, nothing to do with us - but with his details being on show.. and not being used by us.. you can see why.
    Just to confirm, XL Trading does have the right to reply but this does not mean MSE endorses its products in any way and, like all other forum users, must help us keep the forum a friendly place to be.

    Andrea
  • socrates
    socrates Posts: 2,889 Forumite
    I bet you download all you pirate stuff. I gonna contact Virgin media direct. {done}


    http://www.virginmedia.com/myvirginmedia/contact/complaint-feedback.php


    "
    Can anyone recommend a way to send faxes from my PC using my existing Virgin Media 50mb broadband"
    http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=509018


    Did you read the bit that said - "in my new home office"
  • salerio
    salerio Posts: 11 Forumite
    Tim's Ltd company no less.
    And I doubt he will take kindly to you posting information about his which you do not have his consent to do.

    Nothing to do with XL Trading in any way, shape or form.

    So why is he the registrant of XLTrading.net? Coincidence?
  • Smeg77
    Smeg77 Posts: 51 Forumite
    You could only really offer a back-up service if you could prove that the back-up you sold to someone was clearly a back-up.

    Having an opt-out stating that the person buying from you really does have the original is no excuse, as you are still aiding and abetting if found that the person does not actually own the original, whether you supply Keys or Not, you are giving the means for people to circumvent proper retail routes, and thus taking money away from the people who are creating the copyrighted materials.

    Also considering about 90% of all laptops and desktops sold by shops come with some form of DVD copying software, it should be quite possible for people to make their own 'back-ups', apart from where the copyrighted material is protected and would need to be circumvented in order to make the 'copy'. Circumventing protection I believe is considered naughty, and not to be done.

    So therefore it could be construed that offering 'back-ups' of copy protected software, constitutes theft, as you are having to circumvent methods put in place to stop said copying.

    It's not like the good old days of tapes, where you put one in one side of the stereo and the other one in the other deck and just press play /record
  • Smeg77
    Smeg77 Posts: 51 Forumite
    The tick box legally absolves us from any illegal activity that the client might do (not saying they do as we to be honest, is not for us to decide) - it is the same as signing a legally binding contract on the site, you tick it - you abide by it.

    Does that mean if I wanted to defraud someone as long as I get them to tick a box that says it's fine, then legally I cannot be prosecuted?
  • adouglasmhor
    adouglasmhor Posts: 15,554 Forumite
    Photogenic
    Bit thick are you not :)
    Does it say supporters or sponsors...
    http://www.xltrading.net/images/blocks/1-1-piratebay.jpg or where the pic is located: http://xltrading.net/

    I dare you to imply that we get our stuff from Pirate Bay, I absolutely dare you to print this on here in front of the whole world to read. That would be total defamation because you could not prove it.
    And before we all incinuate we download items.. not at all.
    Again.. prove it people or it stays as defamation under legal law. :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:



    I think you will find that could be Tim trying to sort all of this farce out.
    I do know he contacted SF in relation to changing the co.uk to the possible .net if necessary.

    Again, nothing to do with us - but with his details being on show.. and not being used by us.. you can see why.

    better get your legaly lawful lawyer to send a legaly lawful letter. You know fine well nothing is going to happen to anyone who accuses you of anything. Is there even such a thing as illegal law?
    The truth may be out there, but the lies are inside your head. Terry Pratchett


    http.thisisnotalink.cöm
  • oldone_2
    oldone_2 Posts: 974 Forumite
    Since you clearly have not read all of the thread - you won't mind me mentioning YET again for the clearly bandwagon jumping crowd.. that you have not got a bloody clue what you are talking about :)

    Yes I have read the whole thread, and yes I do understand your business model. What you appear not to have read is the EULA on the software you are making 'backups' from which prohibits copying of ANY kind for ANY reason.

    Lets us hope your 'legal team' is bigger than Microsofts if they decide you are breaking their EULA.
  • JasonLVC
    JasonLVC Posts: 16,762 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    salerio wrote: »
    So why is he the registrant of XLTrading.net? Coincidence?

    ...and that's assuming "Tim" still lives at this Elm Lane address becuase that is not the name showing on certain government databases......there's a man registered there who's first name begins with the letter 'C' and a lady there who's name starts with the letter 'D' who were also the Directors of XLDS Limited. Both the trading, and registered offices for XLDS was Elm Lane as was the personal address of these two people.
    Anger ruins joy, it steals the goodness of my mind. Forces me to say terrible things. Overcoming anger brings peace of mind, a mind without regret. If I overcome anger, I will be delightful and loved by everyone.
  • NeverInDebt
    NeverInDebt Posts: 4,633 Forumite
    1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    XLDS
    Registered User

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    Join Date: Jun 2009
    Location: Sheffield
    Total Posts: 110


    If I am paying for 50mb Broadband, I will download what I bloody well like I find smile.gif
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