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Sky cards from XL Trading

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  • Inactive
    Inactive Posts: 14,509 Forumite
    JasonLVC wrote: »
    I've got to catch a flight to Zurich in a bit so no more posts for the next 24/48 hours (I have technical issues connecting to the wifi service at this airport)

    If the thread is still around, will catch up then.

    Enjoy your flight.. ;)
  • TBeckett100
    TBeckett100 Posts: 4,732 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker Cashback Cashier
    edited 5 October 2009 at 5:14PM
    with regards to defamation, the law states that if it makes you appear worse in the public eye, defamation has occured.

    For instance, If I was to say the Prime Minister has a penchant for boys, that would be defamation. If I was to say that Myra Hydley was a auld slapper, legally, it wouldnt be defamation because her reputation could not be tarnished further.

    After reading these threads and reading your posts XL, I am wondering if when the judge has finished reading your input, he may side with the latter.

    Regina V MSEr's? LOL.

    If B&Q could not get my site down and they have deep pockets and solicitors visiting my old site daily, you don;t stand much chance. P.s your beef is not with me as I have not defamed you and up until your first few posts, I thought you were being a bit harsly treated. Then I realised you are fair game.
  • TBeckett100
    TBeckett100 Posts: 4,732 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker Cashback Cashier
    XL Trading, havent you got a business to run? You will need it taking this forum to court.
  • nickp8
    nickp8 Posts: 166 Forumite
    edited 5 October 2009 at 10:51PM
    martwise wrote: »
    I have had 1 of there skyworld cards got 3 months out of it, odered 2 more but no show got my money back. Probaly not worth the risk

    Do you still happen to have the card? SKY would be very interested in the viewing card number to trace from whom and where the card originated from. Even if you dont have the card when you activated the card through the installer menu it would have logged your SKY box serial number and telephone number the box called from. They could trace it from them pieces of information.

    You have nothing to worry about as your helping SKY out and as XL Trading says these cards are totally legal. ;)
  • spike7451
    spike7451 Posts: 6,944 Forumite
    nickp8 wrote: »
    Do you still happen to have the card? SKY would be interested in the viewing card number to trace from whom and where the card originated from. Even if you dont have the card when you got activated the card through the installer menu it would have logged your SKY box serial number and telephone number of the box called from. They could trace it from them pieces of information.

    You have nothing to worry about as your helping SKY out and as XL Trading says these cards are totally legal.

    Again,as a Sky Accredited Engineer,I find that very hard to believe.As to replacement viewing cards,if your's goes faulty,Sky will replace it for free & anyway,it may not be the card thats faulty,could be the box itself or require a forced software update.

  • I dare you to imply that we get our stuff from Pirate Bay, I absolutely dare you to print this on here in front of the whole world to read. That would be total defamation because you could not prove it.

    *I* will say it. You are a crook, a thief and a charaltan who deals in stolen property on a totally illegal web page which sells pirated cd's and stolen Sky cards. I have already given you my IP but you don't respond.

    This is not defamation it is FACT!

    Come on big boy, sue me!
  • nickp8 wrote: »
    Got to go out but some more info that someone could look into. Maybe totally unrelated though.

    http://www.qype.co.uk/place/preview/uk-3740587-x-l-trading-london

    COMPANY XLTRADING
    TYPE OF BUSINESS MISCELLANEOUS FOOD STORES
    BUSINESS DESCRIPTION HERBAL MEDICINE RETAILERS
    DOOR NO 159
    STREET NAME WHITFIELD STREET
    TEL 02073887988
    POSTCODE W1T 5ES


    That is a proper Limited company that is registered & looks totally legit.

    No one should assume this has anything to do with XLtrading.co.uk or XLtrading.net.

    However they may be interested in someone trading under a very similar name.
    Not Again
  • Youkidding wrote: »
    *I* will say it. You are a crook, a thief and a charaltan who deals in stolen property on a totally illegal web page which sells pirated cd's and stolen Sky cards. I have already given you my IP but you don't respond.

    This is not defamation it is FACT!

    Come on big boy, sue me!


    If I was a skeptic I could put you in a box with XLs Alter Ego.
    Not Again
  • •A software licensee never takes ownership of the copyright in the software; he merely
    purchases a licence to use the
    protected software under the terms and conditions set by the copyright owner and the law.
    Am I legally entitled to make a backup of my original software?
    The rules regarding back up copies apply to software; they do not apply to other copyrights such as film and sound
    recordings. Since computer games comprise of a number of such rights, the answer so far as computer games is concerned
    is that making a back up copy is not a permitted act under copyright law.
    So far as copyright in software is concerned the law provides that the lawful user may make a backup
    "where it is necessary for him to have for the purposes of his lawful use". This clause dates back to the time of the 16-bit
    machines when, because of the volatility of floppy discs and problems with software carried on tape cassettes,
    back up copies were thought necessary. Therefore, it is ELSPA’s view that it is no longer necessary for users to create
    backups of their software. This view is underlined in the judgment in the case relating to the illegal chipping of
    PSX consoles referred to below. *
    Pirate web sites with disclaimers stating "you are legally entitled to make one backup copy..." etc.
    misrepresent the legal position. In the words of Mr Justice Jacob in the above case "Back ups are not necessary at all".
    Moreover, offering commercially to provide back up copies for users, or discs with illicit
    games purportedly for the consumer to sample, are very likely to be infringing acts and may also lead to the
    commission of criminal offences carrying a penalty of up to 10 years imprisonment.
  • juliescot
    juliescot Posts: 1,433 Forumite
    itoldyou wrote: »
    •A software licensee never takes ownership of the copyright in the software; he merely
    purchases a licence to use the
    protected software under the terms and conditions set by the copyright owner and the law.
    Am I legally entitled to make a backup of my original software?
    The rules regarding back up copies apply to software; they do not apply to other copyrights such as film and sound
    recordings. Since computer games comprise of a number of such rights, the answer so far as computer games is concerned
    is that making a back up copy is not a permitted act under copyright law.
    So far as copyright in software is concerned the law provides that the lawful user may make a backup
    "where it is necessary for him to have for the purposes of his lawful use". This clause dates back to the time of the 16-bit
    machines when, because of the volatility of floppy discs and problems with software carried on tape cassettes,
    back up copies were thought necessary. Therefore, it is ELSPA’s view that it is no longer necessary for users to create
    backups of their software. This view is underlined in the judgment in the case relating to the illegal chipping of
    PSX consoles referred to below. *
    Pirate web sites with disclaimers stating "you are legally entitled to make one backup copy..." etc.
    misrepresent the legal position. In the words of Mr Justice Jacob in the above case "Back ups are not necessary at all".
    Moreover, offering commercially to provide back up copies for users, or discs with illicit
    games purportedly for the consumer to sample, are very likely to be infringing acts and may also lead to the
    commission of criminal offences carrying a penalty of up to 10 years imprisonment.

    What?:confused:

    any chance of a bit of formatting to help understand this
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