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  • amandada
    amandada Posts: 1,168 Forumite
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    DougWeller wrote: »
    I agree. I can't sympathise with the people who suggest harassing her until she stops.
    Doug

    To be honest, I think the "harassing" comments have been made in jest-that's certainly how I've read them.

    If the OP's dad is really that bothered by it, and additional fencing isn't an option, then with a 200ft garden, surely there's an option to move the veg plot...simply living in his house longer than the new neighbour doesn't give him the right to have everything his way. Whilst I fully appreciate the discomfort the OP's father feels, I'd not be putting myself in a position where there was bad feeling caused with the neighbour...maybe the topless neighbour feels offended by his constant gardening? Live and let live
  • Zazen999
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    catkins wrote: »
    Well a lot of replies but I still don't know what to do for the best. Dad cannot afford more fencing and neither can I.

    Just pop round and ask would it be at all possible if she covers up whilst she is walking around the garden; you aren't asking her to stop sunbathing topless; just to cover up whilst she is walking around the parts of the garden with no fence.

    How will she know that it is an issue unless you discuss it with her?
  • Mojisola
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    Zazen999 wrote: »
    Just pop round and ask would it be at all possible if she covers up whilst she is walking around the garden; you aren't asking her to stop sunbathing topless; just to cover up whilst she is walking around the parts of the garden with no fence.

    How will she know that it is an issue unless you discuss it with her?

    This seems to be the first line to take but I think it's unusual that she would be content to wander round the garden knowing that neighbours can see her so she may enjoy the upset she's causing.

    If she doesn't want to change how she behaves, your father could buy a piece of bamboo fencing or a willow hurdle. He could prop this up between the gardens wherever he is working so that he has some privacy.
  • Is she a naturist? She sounds like she is doing it to make you father so uncomfortable that he continues the fencing to enclose her garden. I cant imagine anyone deliberately walking naked where their neighbours can see them unless for a reason.There would be uproar if he were to do the same thing. Poor man
  • Savvy_Sue
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    I'm struggling with multiquote so think I'm going to have to post two replies.
    My work colleague told me she sunbathes nude in her secluded garden.

    She's on Google Earth :rotfl:
    a) postcode? b) seriously, she knows she can get herself removed from Google Earth, doesn't she? :rotfl:
    amandada wrote: »
    I occasionally (VERY occasionally, I live in Scotland!) lie in the garden topless when it's sunny. It's nothing to do with sunbathing as such, I have quite bad eczema, and the sunlight helps it.
    DH finds the same. More sunlight would be good for all of us.
    Zazen999 wrote: »
    Even if there was no fence and you were coming face to [er] face with them on the way to the greenhouse?
    I just don't get this. Unless the OP's dad is extremely short, making normal eye contact is the answer.
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  • SugarSpun
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    Perhaps she genuinely doesn't realise her boobs are causing offence? It probably wouldn't occur to me that someone who didn't ask me to put the girls away in the privacy of my own garden was offended by them.

    I'm in the camp of "go ask her if she'd mind putting on a shirt while walking around".
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  • Savvy_Sue
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    catkins wrote: »
    It's unfortunate that his veg patch is beyond the fence but she has 100ft of garden in which to sunbath so why keep walking around? Yes it is her garden but her neighbours the other side can see her as can the neighbour the otherside of my dad.
    And? :confused:
    catkins wrote: »
    To me it is a matter of decency. If she walked out in the street topless she would be arrested so how come she is allowed to do it in her garden when she can be seen by quite a few people?
    And to her it is NOT a matter of decency. She would not necessarily be arrested if she went out with no clothes on, there is NO offence of nudity in English law. A man is more likely to be arrested if he refuses to dress when asked to do so, but that is because he has a 'person' which may cause alarm or distress. Women lack this 'person'.

    It may be different if your dad is in Scotland or N Ireland: the law is far more unclear there.
    catkins wrote: »
    As for the comments about little opportunity to walk around topless well she seems to manage to do it almost every day - doesn't seem to need much if any sun.
    So maybe she enjoys the feeling of air on her skin? The freedom of not wearing a bra? I know I do.
    Mojisola wrote: »
    This seems to be the first line to take but I think it's unusual that she would be content to wander round the garden knowing that neighbours can see her so she may enjoy the upset she's causing.
    Or, maybe, she doesn't realise she's causing any upset, maybe, for her, it's an entirely natural thing to do! And, if no-one will talk to her, how are you ever going to find out?

    catkins, ARE the other neighbours upset by this? Maybe one of them would be willing to talk to her, if they are. But maybe they're loving it - at least until the novelty wears off.
    Mojisola wrote: »
    If she doesn't want to change how she behaves, your father could buy a piece of bamboo fencing or a willow hurdle. He could prop this up between the gardens wherever he is working so that he has some privacy.
    That would be a cheap way round the problem.
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  • Savvy_Sue
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    Is she a naturist? She sounds like she is doing it to make you father so uncomfortable that he continues the fencing to enclose her garden.
    If she were a 'true' naturist she would leave her bikini bottom off too. And if it mattered that much to her to have the garden fully secluded, she'd find a way herself.
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  • space_rider
    space_rider Posts: 1,741 Forumite
    Well lets face it. In the UK there aren`t that many days to sunbathe!
  • dogcat_2
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    :rotfl::rotfl:This thread has cheered me up:D....it makes for fantastic reading.;)...I do hope the problem sorts itself out soon!.....
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