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Can I have a moan? Please feel fee to tell me I'm being an unreasonable cowbag...!

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  • MsCrow
    MsCrow Posts: 534 Forumite
    Moglex wrote: »
    You seem incapable of grasping the fact that Ebay provide a messaging system in order that people can carry out transactions in a manner that is convenient for them entirely within Ebay.

    You also seem to be incapable of grasping the fact that it is not for one party to arbitrarily insist that they switch to another method of communication against the will of their trading partner.

    How the information has been released is irrrelevant.

    The plain fact is that the seller is trying to bully the buyer into using a form of communication with which she is not comfortable and which would mean there is no record of any communication.

    The seller's attitude is high handed and obnoxious and the fact that there are people siding with him it says a lot of rather unpleasant things about their own personalities.

    The above is superfluous as the item is collection only so the OP would need to meet with the seller anyway. Ebay encourages telephone contact to resolve problems just as much as it provides the messaging service.

    So far, all that has been stated is that the seller has asked the OP to call. The seller also prefers to talk to the OP rather than her husband. It's possible to infer lots of outcomes and reasons from this, but neither the buyer or some contributors can make an judgement on this oor the sellers motivations - which may be perfectly sensible e.g. wanting to know the buyer is legitimate, being able to give the buyer directions, etc, etc, etc.
  • Moglex
    Moglex Posts: 1,581 Forumite
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    edited 14 August 2009 at 10:26AM
    MsCrow wrote: »
    The above is superfluous as the item is collection only so the OP would need to meet with the seller anyway.

    That has absolutely nothing to do with it.
    Ebay encourages telephone contact to resolve problems just as much as it provides the messaging service.

    Do you have a link for that?

    How would that work for deaf people?

    Do EBay state that it's mandatory to switch to telephone if one party dictates it?
    So far, all that has been stated is that the seller has asked the OP to call. The seller also prefers to talk to the OP rather than her husband. It's possible to infer lots of outcomes and reasons from this, but neither the buyer or some contributors can make an judgement on this oor the sellers motivations - which may be perfectly sensible e.g. wanting to know the buyer is legitimate, being able to give the buyer directions, etc, etc, etc.

    Will you ever understand?

    It's not for one party to arbitrarily dictate they go outside EBay and change communication methods to one with which their trading partner is not happy

    There must be something very odd in you psychological makeup to consider that sort of high handed, dictatorial, behaviour acceptable. :confused:
  • Caliendo
    Caliendo Posts: 283 Forumite
    MsCrow wrote: »
    The above is superfluous as the item is collection only so the OP would need to meet with the seller anyway. Ebay encourages telephone contact to resolve problems just as much as it provides the messaging service.

    So far, all that has been stated is that the seller has asked the OP to call. The seller also prefers to talk to the OP rather than her husband. It's possible to infer lots of outcomes and reasons from this, but neither the buyer or some contributors can make an judgement on this oor the sellers motivations - which may be perfectly sensible e.g. wanting to know the buyer is legitimate, being able to give the buyer directions, etc, etc, etc.

    Somebody else could pick the thing up. Directions can be typed. You can't tell if a seller is legit by having a 2 minute phonecall. He hasn't asked Jacks to phone him he's tried to force her to.
  • MsCrow
    MsCrow Posts: 534 Forumite
    Moglex wrote: »

    Do you have a link for that?...

    There must be something very odd in you psychological makeup to consider that sort of high handed, dictatorial, behaviour acceptable.

    http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/newtoebay/more-answers.html
    You have had problems contacting your buyer or seller.
    Contacting eBay Members The best and fastest way to resolve problems is to contact your trading partner directly by email or phone.

    Keep to the thread at hand rather than making personal inferences which could be considered offensive
  • Moglex
    Moglex Posts: 1,581 Forumite
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    MsCrow wrote: »

    That merely states that the phone is an option. It does not state that either party is obliged to use it.
    Keep to the thread at hand rather than making personal inferences which could be considered offensive

    Oh, I think that a lot of people will be making some rather unpleasant inferences about some of the respondants on this thread who seem to be absolutely determined to support a man who is acting in an arrogant and dictatorial manner and trying to bully a woman who does not wish to phone him into doing so. :rolleyes:
  • cyberbob
    cyberbob Posts: 9,480 Forumite
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    Whatever happened to Customer service?
  • MsCrow wrote: »
    The above is superfluous as the item is collection only so the OP would need to meet with the seller anyway. Ebay encourages telephone contact to resolve problems just as much as it provides the messaging service.

    So far, all that has been stated is that the seller has asked the OP to call. The seller also prefers to talk to the OP rather than her husband. It's possible to infer lots of outcomes and reasons from this, but neither the buyer or some contributors can make an judgement on this oor the sellers motivations - which may be perfectly sensible e.g. wanting to know the buyer is legitimate, being able to give the buyer directions, etc, etc, etc.

    Several posters have dealt with your points on an individual basis and I have nothing to add to their excellent dismantling of your argument except to ask you a question.

    Is that truly what you believe, or do you just hate to lose an argument so much that you are willing to post patent nonsense in defence of it?
  • surely the fact that the seller wouldn't arrange collection via the husband , who has rung him as he requested , should ring alarm bells?!

    OP has said she is partially deaf and not confident on the phone so has got her husband to ring instead , fair enough and has basically done as the seller wanted but the seller only wants to speak to her? very odd imo

    If I were in her shoes and a seller refused to speak with my husband to arrange collection I would tell him to stick the furniture where the sun don't shine , no way would I be bullied into talking to him on the phone and then go to his house.

    I've completed many collection only transactions on ebay , both as a seller and a buyer , and have never spoke to anyone on the phone. The messaging system is there to complete transactions and I personally find it easier to type directions down rather than reap them off over the phone , easier for the person collecting the item too as they then have them written down rather than trying to scrawl them down during a phonecall.
  • cyberbob wrote: »
    Whatever happened to Customer service?

    Indeed. :D
  • MsCrow
    MsCrow Posts: 534 Forumite
    Moglex wrote: »
    Oh, I think that a lot of people will be making some rather unpleasant inferences about some of the respondants on this thread who seem to be absolutely determined to support a man who is acting in an arrogant and dictatorial manner and trying to bully a woman who does not wish to phone him into doing so. :rolleyes:

    Conjecture and inference rather than staying bipartisan; there are always two sides to a story.
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