A tale of barclays... one honest man in a company full of lies

Andystriker

This makes no sense, its BM's username so who the bloody hell would be replying :rotfl::rotfl: LOl sorry but that bit lost me somewhat!


I am trying to make the point that he should not, or be forced to, change his username. If he did then we would not know it was Barclaysmanager replying would we If MSE say he has broken the rules or want him to do something he won't then they should remove him. This would (again only in my opinion) a mistake by MSE.



What we think doesn't matter, you'll find that the facts are he has been told to do something (by MSE) he doesn't want to do so he will leave - that is up to him.


What we or I think may not matter, but I reserve the right to say what I think. This is a free world and a free speech forum.



Why are you going on like this - who mentioned the advice given?


Perhaps advice was the wrong word. Comments given then



Whilst I agree BM will be missed, i'd still prefer an actual bank rep myself - this way we can ask specific questions without the need to get personal.

And I would prefer BM to stay as he is. An opinion I am entitled to thanks.

never-in-doubt

Andystriker wrote: »

I am trying to make the point that he should not, or be forced to, change his username. If he did then we would not know it was Barclaysmanager replying would we If MSE say he has broken the rules or want him to do something he won't then they should remove him. This would (again only in my opinion) a mistake by MSE.

Agreed to an extent, it would be an absolute mistake to get that involved but they do seem to be reaching out and getting 'too' involved lately, maybe it's this new company registration martin has used that puts him liable, all to hide the company profits. Shame.

Unlimited company! (Click Here to see what that means in respect to MSE)

What we or I think may not matter, but I reserve the right to say what I think. This is a free world and a free speech forum.

Undisputed..... :beer:

And I would prefer BM to stay as he is. An opinion I am entitled to thanks.

Then he will not be allowed to stay - you can't have it both ways can you.

I've commented in red next to you - i'm not falling out with you, just saying it seemed like we were crossing wires....

DevilsAvocado

To throw someone off the site because they didn't want to represent their company in an official sense is absolutely ridiculous. This is a website that advocates so-called "consumer revenge," and is home to people who suggest that PPI be reclaimed to "sting" a lender, regardless of whether the sale was correct or not. Although such people don't form the basis of this site's user base, their presence alone is enough to give you a clear indication that no bank is going to want to be officially represented here, and will stick to their own channels.

It's wishful thinking on the part of this site's administrators.

ROM29

D1zzy wrote: »

Find a way to stick around - we need people like you who actually know what's going on. :beer:
Been hoping for a LTSB manager but no luck so far :rolleyes:

:wave:......

jambosans

DevilsAvocado wrote: »

To throw someone off the site because they didn't want to represent their company in an official sense is absolutely ridiculous. This is a website that advocates so-called "consumer revenge," and is home to people who suggest that PPI be reclaimed to "sting" a lender, regardless of whether the sale was correct or not. Although such people don't form the basis of this site's user base, their presence alone is enough to give you a clear indication that no bank is going to want to be officially represented here, and will stick to their own channels.

It's wishful thinking on the part of this site's administrators.

Although I take your point completely and agree with it in many respects. I would just like to point out that there are bank representatives on MSE, Yorkshire Bank being one. However I think the one post in relation to Yorkshire Bank highlights the limited contribution a representative can make, as opposed to an employee not here in an official capacity.

I agree with the dichotomy in having the name "BarclaysManager" but not officially representing Barclays (even with a disclaimer signature). It is obviously helpful to know where a user has sourced their knowledge from but ultimately a name should give no more credibility to one post over another. The quality of BM's posts give him credibility in his own right without the need of a name such as "BarclaysManager".

Personally I don't have a problem with BarclaysManager, Natweststaffmember, or even a poster called Lloydsjanitor (ha) because like any online alias, it is just a name, and although people will argue contrary, does not make their posts any more credible.

DevilsAvocado

jambosans wrote: »

Although I take your point completely and agree with it in many respects. I would just like to point out that there are bank representatives on MSE, Yorkshire Bank being one. However I think the one post in relation to Yorkshire Bank highlights the limited contribution a representative can make, as opposed to an employee not here in an official capacity.

I'd also point out that your example is a press officer, too, and not one from a major high street bank. Once you have representation from Barclays, HSBC, Lloyds, RBS, etc. it might be somewhat credible - other than just one small bank.

More over, their appointed representative is, as said, a press officer - you're not going to get any sort of useless comment or information from them, you're going to get a reaction to a situation - to try and sway any public opinion. In that, it is a marketing tool.

Although I welcome the engagement of their consumers by companies, I don't think you quite realize that having a press officer on the boards doesn't quite compare to the other examples you've given (i.e. BarclaysManager, natweststaffmember). They are in a position to give honest and frank information that may be of some use, a press officer is not. All you'll get from that is a PR person who will ensure complaints jump the queue a little bit. This has a value in and of itself, but it's hardly honest and transparent!

jambosans

DevilsAvocado wrote: »

I don't think you quite realize that having a press officer on the boards doesn't quite compare to the other examples you've given (i.e. BarclaysManager, natweststaffmember). They are in a position to give honest and frank information that may be of some use, a press officer is not. All you'll get from that is a PR person who will ensure complaints jump the queue a little bit. This has a value in and of itself, but it's hardly honest and transparent!

I couldn't agree more, I was just pointing out that there were company representatives on MSE, press officer or not. I think we're arguing from the same page. I agree with what you are saying completely, and did say when I used Yorkshire Banks Rep as an example how little they contributed.

I class my time on these boards as relatively short, however I am fully aware of the contributions members like BarclaysManager and Natweststaffmember make. For someone who has been a member since yesterday you are quite quick to judge my understanding of the demographics of this site.

Seeing as I've just replied to an incredibly detailed response from yourself, I just want to check something. You aren't BarclaysManager with a new alias by any chance?

natweststaffmember

Gotta say, I didn't realise there was a Yorkshire Bank rep until it was mentioned. I have quite a few questions for them

dacouch

Why doen't BM rergister as LTSBmanager...

jambosans

natweststaffmember wrote: »

Gotta say, I didn't realise there was a Yorkshire Bank rep until it was mentioned. I have quite a few questions for them

Well you'd be forgiven for not realising, they have only posted once. :rolleyes: Like DevilsAvacado said (and it's also confirmed by MSE Dan on that thread), it's someone from the Yorkshire Bank Press Office.