Childminder hit my child

peachyprice

carolinosourus wrote: »

I read your post, OP and the ones on the first page but don't really have the time to read through all of them! So doubtless I'm just repeating what others have said but in regards to disciplining a child, it's very difficult to explain and make them understand when you are trying to punish them hours after the event took place. I do believe that the childminder just wanted to emphasise to your son that he did a very bad thing just then and that he should, under no circumstances, ever do that again. If she had not smacked him and you had explained well after the fact that he was naughty then I doubt that he would have understood exactly what he was being told off for.

Also, I'm not sure why you didn't tell the childminder not to smack him any more, coming from your son I'm not sure that this would have the desired effect!

When I was little we were smacked by my parents if we had done something very naughty or dangerous, we were also looked-after by a family friend who treated us as her own and would smack us if we were every very naughty, but she would tell my mother when she picked us up and explain the situation. I don't think it's right that she has been hitting your child and not telling you about it or explaining the situation at all, even if she didn't tell you in front of your child, she should still tell you.

I'm not against smacking, I think that a short sharp shock is often effective at deterring bad behaviour, or instilling the message that the child had done something very dangerous.

However, I also agree with a post that I saw about the fact that the childminder was paying so little attention to him that he was able to wander off out of the shop, but you said that he often goes off and hides under shopping rails, so she may have just assumed that's what he was doing. I don't condone her behaviour in anny respect though, she should have been aware of where your child was in any case.

Once more for those at the back, it is illegal for the childminder to smack the child, full stop, no discussion, no matter what she was empasising, no matter if she felt the child needed a short sharp shock and no amount of explaining the situation to OP changes that.

jenhug

Hope the OP has managed to find a childminder she is happy with.

andyrules

Right - first of all, I'm glad peachy has clarified the smacking rule. Regardless of what people's opinions are with their own child, you can't smack if the child is in your professional care.
So that is the first mistake of the op's cm.
Second, a pre-school child ran off in her care and was at risk. I used to childmind before the rules tightened up (so I'm not familiar with all cm rules). The youngest walking child held onto the pushchair or my hand, at all times. No argument, no room for error. There can't be.
Third - I can't help wondering why the child was on a shopping trip which meant he was bored enough to make his own fun? A trip to the supermarket which can involve the child is ok, but clothes shopping?

OP, I would run asap and find someone who will give you better value for money ;)

pickle92

I would wonder what part of the EYFS mentions being dragged around M&S. Its no wonder he ran off he was probably bored to death. I am a childminder and my working hours are spent with the childs needs in mind. If she had an office job she wouldnt be able to go shopping when she felt like it. I would question this persons ability to meet your childs needs. As for the smaking this is not acceptable, even if a parent gives permission the childminder is NEVER allowed to smack a child. This show a loss of temper. They wouldnt do it to a grown up. I would suggest that you remove your child and seek alternative care. This type of situation is not normal for a childminding setting.

mrcow

JESSDANDO wrote: »

I would wonder what part of the EYFS mentions being dragged around M&S. Its no wonder he ran off he was probably bored to death.

Really?

My kids love going shopping with me. Especially M&S as they have a wicked cafeteria.

Bettyboop

I wonder what happened with the OP and her child? Furthermore I wonder if the childminder is still childminding? I hope she wasn't paid and that she finds another sort of job as looking after kids is certainly not for her! I have to say had she hit my son or daughter I would have probably given her a clap myself. It's totally unacceptable and anybody reading this thread will be in two minds now when they need to find a form of childcare.

I interviewed one a couple of years ago..I asked her why she went into Childminding and her answer was: Oh my boyfriend left me, I have two kids to raise and I really need the money. Obviously everyone needs money but it's not the answer you should give. Her home was littered with cat her and she had no stair gates and she told us that was acceptable to Ofsted...we stood up and said we had to go....

rockchick72_2

have just read some of the posts and no childminder is allowed to smack a child in her care i have worked as a childminder for 8 years and have never nor ever would smack a child. however i am just in the process of cancelling my registration as a child in my care has accused me of just that i am devaststed i have looked after this child for nearly 5 years and feel completely an d utterley betrayed i love the kids i look after and would never smack them but she is a child and so believed i have no where to turn and feel physically sick but there is nothing i can do

Bettyboop

rockchick72 wrote: »

have just read some of the posts and no childminder is allowed to smack a child in her care i have worked as a childminder for 8 years and have never nor ever would smack a child. however i am just in the process of cancelling my registration as a child in my care has accused me of just that i am devaststed i have looked after this child for nearly 5 years and feel completely an d utterley betrayed i love the kids i look after and would never smack them but she is a child and so believed i have no where to turn and feel physically sick but there is nothing i can do

That's terrible rockchick72. Why did this child say you smacked him/her? what did mum and dad say? Perhaps this could get sorted out and you could carry on Childminding.

Good luck everything.

rockchick72_2

i am going to report it to ofsted and let them sort it out i have nothing to hide as for continuing to childmind i don't think i can i feel physically sick that a child i have looked after for 5 years and treated as a member of the family could do this i love looking after kids but i just can't continue all i want is for my name to be cleared
thanks for your good wishes

yalisrib

rockchick72 wrote: »

i am going to report it to ofsted and let them sort it out i have nothing to hide as for continuing to childmind i don't think i can i feel physically sick that a child i have looked after for 5 years and treated as a member of the family could do this i love looking after kids but i just can't continue all i want is for my name to be cleared
thanks for your good wishes

Good - my old head teacher was asscused of abuse so killed himself (other stuff going on aswell) which left everyone secretly wondering if he had something to hide, which actually made me feel betrayed - why didn't he fight for the hunders of kids he had made a difference to? I'm confident that if had had fought the allegagtions, he would have been cleared because of the mile long qeue of people willing to support him, just like you will have.