MSE Parents Club Part 3

Savvy_Sue

Sami_Bee wrote: »

Mel: i think its generally considered that positive dicipline is what works best for problem children but probably not nesesary for 'normal' children iyswim

I wouldn't say it was limited to 'problem' children: different children respond to different approaches. DS1 was never a 'problem', he was just different. Ignoring behaviour I didn't like got me absolutely nowhere. Making a fuss about behaviour I did like left him unmoved. Therefore it was best to be pretty clear ASAP about behaviour I didn't want continued.

Mine are all a bit awkward like that. Hopeless to ignore DS2's tantrums, he just got worse, so holding him, sssshhhing him, blowing him, singing at him was generally best.

And even now if I say "Well Done!" to DS3 he accuses me of patronising him.

cazscoob wrote: »

the best thing i have found about BF is that it is a miracle cure for everything, an unwell baby, a fall, a temper tantrum etc lol!

:rotfl: Actually some of my last feeds out of the house with all of them were after minor mishaps - being bitten at toddler group in particular!

MrsTine wrote: »

Reigns I can see the point of when they are little but I would expect a 5 year old to walk under control without a "leash"...

Playing devil's advocate here, some children are - through no fault of the parents - not 'reliable' at the age of 5. Therefore you've either got to have reins, or superglue your hand to theirs. Perhaps especially if you've got several ...

MrsTine wrote: »

(DH does keep joking that we're going to put Roo on a spring loaded retractable dog leash... MEN!)

We did have a wrist strap which we used once I felt they were a bit big for reins but couldn't quite trust them not to run off.

cazscoob

lwcus78 wrote: »

Hi there, How old is your nephew? Is it sicky reflux or silent reflux? What milk is he on? Has he been referred to paed or stil under GP? Has he tried gaviscon? Is he putting on weight.
Sorry if you have already given this info.:o not read back.

My little one has silent reflux where they dont projectile vomit-just acid comes up and goes back down again. He was on omeprazole and domperidone but has moved on to lansoprazole now. Omeprazole can take a good few days to kick in. Also, often the dose can be increased but ask your GP.
Have a look on www.livingwithreflux.org. Its a brilliant website. I would try and get a referral if you feel its needed and can always cancel it at later date if he's better.
Sometimes an allergy can cause reflux and milk and wheat are the most common ones.

Hope he's better soon.xx

hi TBH he has not been diagnosed with any thing the HV and GP are useless they will not refer him and basically are making my sister feel that she is making things up he is continually sick and that is when she can get him to feed. he has started to refuse to feed and took a whole 17oz in a whole 24 hours this was brilliant for him! he has lost weight over the past 6 weeks and it has been such a fight to get them to do anything. we are having to research ourselves and then go to them to suggest things and hope that they will listen or give something to help. he is on a lactose free milk and gaviscon makes him constipated?

He is 16 weeks and only 12lb he was 7lb 5oz at bith and this has been ongoing from birth. he has either severe constipation or the complete oposite. he cries a lot and can be very hard to settle.

HV will be out tom to weigh him and my sis is pushing for a referal, she is at the stage that she is ready to sit in A&E until someone takes a proper look at him. The HV is making out my sis has PND and that there is nothing wrong with baby :mad: it has even got to the stage she is asking people if she is making it up:eek:

cazscoob

i think charlie will need a sat nav tracking device fitted never mind reigns if he wants to go he will! i have had to start locking the doors or he opens them and is then off!

money_maker_3

I am a bit the same about BF a toddler, but then in the town I live in, and I have been here for 27 years BTW, I dont think I have EVER saw a mum BF her kid in any of the cafes or restaurants!! Maybe thats why I am not comfortable with it , its not the norm here ???

As for reigns, I just dont agree with them, for any circumstance, sorry if that sounds bad, but I cannot think of anything worse than treating your child like a dog and putting them on a leash. I know that view will not be completely accepted by most of you, but it is only my view.

Krystaltips

Sami_Bee wrote: »

Krystal- the mum's that stopped by their choice not LO's didthey all find it difficult or was it a mix?

it's the same as most things Sami, some found it easier than others... But at the end of the day it's like taking a bottle or dummy away, you're removing something they use for comfort and food... The difference is, you can hide / throw away dummys and bottles... Your boobies are right there and little children don't understand why you won't feed like you normally do... Gentle cutting down is kinder than cold turkey I think...

Sami_Bee wrote: »

Bruno - that's the article I quoted from earlier, its rediculous isn't it and the comments some people have left too :rolleyes:

The research into that article is shady to say the least... Some breastfeeding peeps complained to m&b magazine about the wording of the question, they basically just asked folk about negative experiences... No mention of anything positive or even non-eventfull feeding...

Sami_Bee

Christopher did the running off thing in M&S on my due date :rolleyes:
I pooped myself! the little monkey decided he didn't want to stand next to mummy while she chose nickers but wanted to play chase instead - straight through the men's clothing dept where I couldn't see which way he was running because he's shorter than the rails :eek: and you know he ran past 3 men all of whom didn't even look at him or anything :mad: The amount of times I've caught a running toddler for someone who was perfectly fit nevermind a heavily pregnant woman trying to waddle after one

MrsTinks

I think the leash that hubby was keen on was one that you press a buttno and the child flies back through the air as though on an elastic band I hasten to add he was joking and merely musing the comedy value of a child zooming backwards from say the sweety aisle at Tesco

I don't have a problem with harnesses or wrist straps, and I have no doubt we'll probably end up with one or t'other at some point...

Think tomorrow I shall make a point of BFing in public after reading some of those comments on the article... just to dare someone to make a comment *evil laugh*
On monday I might even suggest at booby club for anyone interested to frequent a resturant or pub or something - even if only for a cuppa tea or a cold drink and let's practise BFing in public together - doubt anyone would dare say something if there was say 6 of you doing it together mwarharharhar

Sami_Bee

Krystaltips wrote: »

it's the same as most things Sami, some found it easier than others... But at the end of the day it's like taking a bottle or dummy away, you're removing something they use for comfort and food... The difference is, you can hide / throw away dummys and bottles... Your boobies are right there and little children don't understand why you won't feed like you normally do... Gentle cutting down is kinder than cold turkey I think...


The research into that article is shady to say the least... Some breastfeeding peeps complained to m&b magazine about the wording of the question, they basically just asked folk about negative experiences... No mention of anything positive or even non-eventfull feeding...

I thought that would be the answer, I can see me letting Ed self wean (that was/is the plan anyway) I'm too lazy to face the fight - this is why Chris still has a dummy and a bottle at bedtime:o I'm gradually trying to get him onto a cup, no idea about the dummy as I almost had it off him 6months ago but something just changed and he's more attached to it than ever now:rolleyes:

I thought there may be more to the BF article as there always is these days!

Which reminds me I got a bit het up the other day over Maria on corrie Why can't they portray a normal BFing mum ie having some problems but over coming them and actually showing her feeding the baby but noooo the first day she's home she says I'm worried he's not feeding right and Audry says "oh just give him a bottle" and then Tony offers to sort out the steriliser. The next day Tony is talking about making up a bottle for the baby:rolleyes:
I tried to think of any BFing characters on TV and the only one I could think of was Rachael on friends although it was only mentioned in one or 2 episodes then disapeared into the ether

Becles

I think people are wary of touching toddlers these days. I had a bad experience doing a good deed!

I was going into InShops (not sure if that's a national thing, but it's like a sort of indoor market with lots of tiny independant shops.) As I opened the door, a little boy ran out at top speed heading straight for the road into the car park, so I grabbed him. He was crying so I calmed him down and he told me he'd lost his Mammy. I explaned I would take him back in and we'd go to customer services and they would put a message out for Mammy to collect him.

I picked him up and held him high and we were playing "hunt the Mammy" on the way to the customer service desk which he thought was funny. All of a sudden a lady snatched him out of my arms and screamed "get your hands off him, he's mine!" and marched off.

I was totally gobsmacked and felt like marching after her and telling her if I hadn't have grabbed him, he'd probably be under a car by now

MrsTinks

Becles - she was probably trying to draw the attention from the fact she'd let him run off in the first place... lots of people react to being faced publicly with their own failings by lashing out or trying to divert attention from themselves in an aggressive fashion I'd have no problem doing what you did - I'd be more worried about the childs safety than possibly having an inept mother shout at me to hide her own inadequacy