Times Article showing the TRUE costs of Ryanair

lesley1960

I assume keeping planes safely in the air costs a fair amount of money , so how can any airline operate ,while charging very little ?

old_motters

Pollycat wrote: »

I would be very interested in reading proof to back up your statements:

Head on over to pprune for more information on how Ryanair treats its staff, I don't have the time or inclination to dig it out for you.

old_motters

lesley1960 wrote: »

I assume keeping planes safely in the air costs a fair amount of money , so how can any airline operate ,while charging very little ?

Contrary to popular belief Ryanair is not always cheap, it's only cheap in terms of promotional and far in advance fare. Last minute fares are rarely cheap can be as expensive as mainline carriers.

Pollycat

old_motters wrote: »

Head on over to pprune for more information on how Ryanair treats its staff, I don't have the time or inclination to dig it out for you.

I've looked here:
http://www.pprune.org/
and can't see anything that jumps out at me about Ryanair's treatment of staff.

A link to a specific post would be good, I'm happy to be convinced that your statements have a solid base in fact.

But, of course, if you've not got the time or inclination - just carry on making allegations.....

PolishBigSpender

lesley1960 wrote: »

I assume keeping planes safely in the air costs a fair amount of money , so how can any airline operate ,while charging very little ?

Ryanair's maintainence standards are widely recognised as being among the highest in the world. They have to be - the entire Ryanair model relies on keeping planes in the sky, not on the ground - and for that to happen, the maintainence has to be absolutely top quality. The fact that they don't use old planes is also a bonus - and well maintained second hand planes fetch a nice price on the market.

They may cut corners everywhere else in their operation, but Ryanair most definitely look after their aeroplanes.

Driver8

I believe it is actually Lufthansa which carries out Ryanair's maintenance.

suey2y

well, I used to fly with Ryan Air a lot. I lived in Italy and used to fly back to the uk - maybe with family, alone, with baby seats, at the very last minute - there were few scenarios missed!!!
I've just booked a holiday for 7 of us (four adults, two children and a baby) and I'm STAGGERED by how much the fees have gone up.
I'm not a complainer but I've never felt so shafted in all my life. I could cry. I was booking as a surprise for my husband and quite rushed but many of the fees are unavoidable now - ESPECIALLY IF YOU TRAVEL WITH CHILDREN.
The fee for the baby was £40, £20 for a car seat, and he has to sit on my lap with no luggage!
My flights were £87
Taxes and fees £270
TOTAL BOOKING CAME TO £688 - THAT'S £300 OF RYAN AIR CHARGES I COULDN'T AVOID.
Like many posters, i always accepted Ryanair's charging policy and felt it was quite fair - it was possible with carry on luggage etc to travel very cheaply.
THIS IS NO LONGER THE CASE.
I paid £60 to book using my Visa DEBIT card - unavoidable as I don't do credit and honestly I can't believe this isn't criminal. £60 to process one payment??????
£60 for online check-in when I KNOW I said no during the booking process.
Sorry for the long post, but I'll NEVER use them again and implore others to do the same. I honestly think the Irishman has gone mad.
I will go back and try to undo some of the fees I can live without, but I'm sure it won't be allowed.
Saved £700 on the villa though, :T so it's not about the money - I felt cheated and actually robbed. I've honestly never felt so UPSET by a company.

suey2y

Sorry, just posted long message, but haven't used this site before, and din't realise this was the main way to get ADVICE. I'm sure this has been asked many times, so sorry again for being a newbie, but can anyone offer advice about cancelling some of these fees with Ryanair now that I've booked?
Has anyone done it? Where should I start?
I want to canx fees for :
Online check in - £60
Baby equipment - £20
1 x baggage check in £20
ALSO QUERY £60 CREDIT CARD FEE (although I know this one will be enforced - I still think it's criminal) Has anyone fought this?
Also I thought the law had changed and they had to quote a fair price inc fees before booking? Can anyone clarify this for me?
Thanks in advance

fifeken

Once you've paid that's it I'm afraid. If you'd asked in advance you could have avoided the CC fee (just read a few threads around here for info).
On-line check in is now compulsory for all passengers althought it is waived on special offer fares.
You've still got flights for under £100 per person (or just over if you take the bay out of the equation. Could you have done that with a full service carrier?

old_motters

fifeken wrote: »

Once you've paid that's it I'm afraid. If you'd asked in advance you could have avoided the CC fee (just read a few threads around here for info).
On-line check in is now compulsory for all passengers althought it is waived on special offer fares.
You've still got flights for under £100 per person (or just over if you take the bay out of the equation. Could you have done that with a full service carrier?

The baby doesn't get its own seat and would have been 10% of the adult fare with a full service carrier. Children also get discounted fares. Faring out air travel with children isn't as simple as divide cost by the number of travellers as you have done.