Times Article showing the TRUE costs of Ryanair

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Incidentally, Laura Whately wrote the 20 reasons to not fly Ryanair article.
Smells like some sort of hidden agenda to me. Like I said, re-calculating those expenses on a more realistic basis would change the article considerably.

As a kid I went on holiday with my parents and sister to various places for 7-14 days. The most we checked in was two suitcases which was more than enough. We had no hand luggage, save a handbag for my mum, and moneybelt for my dad to hold passports and money. A sensible family with Ryanair would break the same contents down into one luggage and two hand-luggage roll-ons for mum and dad. So, why not do the comparisons based off this?

The Times is owned by News Corporation, of which Rod Eddington is a director, who was the ex-CEO of, you've guessed it, British Airways.

Nothing like a bit of impartiality, huh? Some of the copy.. ie:
It will cost only £7 more to fly with British Airways if you pay for your flight with a debit card. That is about as much as the cost of a couple of bottles of water and a packet of peanuts on one of the budget airlines.

Now, I'm no cynic, but I would assume that BA, having seen a downturn in business traffic, is evidently pricing themselves as a reasonable alternative to Ryanair.

In February, they announced that their losses were 70m for April-Dec 08 and likely to be 150m for financial year 08/09.

In March, '20 Reasons not to fly Ryanair' comes out. Co-incidence or subtle strategy?

More financials are out this week, so wouldn't be surprised to see more articles soon. Probably on some 'horror' story of an entire family forgetting to check in and forgetting their boarding cards and getting charged loads. You read it here first, ok?

dmg24

donaldtramp wrote: »

Time to stop flying with these chancers. If you get absolutely everything right and don't forget your boarding ticket, forget to check in online, don't take anything on board with you, book your baggage in advance, Ryanair is a tiny bit cheaper. But then they land you miles from where you want to be.So you now have the transport costs and personal time lost.

Please tell me with which other airline(s) I can fly to Marrakech for 'a tiny bit' more than £15? Also, which airport is closer to Marrakech than ... Marrakech Airport?

donaldtramp

dmg24 wrote: »

Please tell me with which other airline(s) I can fly to Marrakech for 'a tiny bit' more than £15? Also, which airport is closer to Marrakech than ... Marrakech Airport?

So that's one airport then!
They are renowned for landing in the !!!!! end of nowhere. You can't possibly argue against that.
I recently booked tickets on a holiday I had flying round Europe. I flew the major airlines after realising the inconvenience that the cheap airlines would have caused me with destination airports and very little cost saving.

Another journey, due to the snow in January I was stranded and missed the flight I was booked on with BA. They just put me on the next available flight, no charge.
Compare this to my folks who had to fly back from a holiday in Portugal early due to an unexpected death in the family.
2 Ryanair flights, the first one to London was delayed and as such my folks missed the 2nd Ryanair flight. All Ryanair's fault. They had to book and pay again for the next flight. No apology, no explanation but they were too upset to complain and just paid Ryanair for the next flight.
So I guess if you are willing to pay companies money for attitude and customer service like this, you deserve everything you get.

pinkcandyflossprincess

dmg24 wrote: »

Please tell me with which other airline(s) I can fly to Marrakech for 'a tiny bit' more than £15? Also, which airport is closer to Marrakech than ... Marrakech Airport?

i did a bit of research on marrakech and was suprised how close most of the accomodation is to the airport, would love to go for a break myself...only gripe is they dont do that route from birmingham:rolleyes:

Driver8

I have flown this year with Ryanair;

Prague £10 return
Krakow twice in February £10 & £20 return
Madrid £7.50 return
Barcelona £13.40 return
Going to Krakow again 1st of June £6 return
Going to Poznan 9th of June £10 return.

When other airlines can fly me to countries for those prices i will use them until that time long live Ryanair.

I said it before and i'll say it again you know the exact price you are going to pay before you decide to purchase with Ryanair it's just that some people are too thick to use a PC then complain about getting ripped off after buying the tickets. Why oh why do they buy then complain? I will tell you, it's because they cannot find the flights cheaper but with somepeoples mindset it can only be a rip off cause they read it somewhere that Ryanair rip you off and it sticks in their minds. They still bought the tickets didn't they? Then go on forums complaining they got ripped off when they didn't. Play by Ryanairs rules and you could go as cheaply as i do. But then again don't, i can have cheaper flights because of the educationally challenged ones.

phatbear

donaldtramp wrote: »

So that's one airport then!
They are renowned for landing in the !!!!! end of nowhere. You can't possibly argue against that.
I recently booked tickets on a holiday I had flying round Europe. I flew the major airlines after realising the inconvenience that the cheap airlines would have caused me with destination airports and very little cost saving.

Well in the past year I have flown to berlin (schonenfeld), porto (oporto), rome (ciampino) and I think you would struggle to get closer to the centre of town than these 3 airports, or if you could all 3 were perfectly situated for trains/buses to where you wanted to go.

And on top of that I've never paid more than £10 one way for a flight and only delayed once, which when we landed we had made up the time.

Its all part of the game pay with the right card, take your own food, dont expect virgin quality customer service etc etc and you'll be kool and the gang.

CCFC_80

Another pointless Ryanair bashing thread ! I have flown recently to Prague and Reus(Barcelona) from Birmingham for free !
I used online check in, paid with visa electron card, carried hand luggage less then 10 Kg and did not buy their rip off on-board refreshments. Where are these extra charges that people keep going on about and also can they recommend any other airline companies that offer free flights ?

P.s Also both of the flights were daytime flights and ontime!

phatbear

donaldtramp wrote: »

Compare this to my folks who had to fly back from a holiday in Portugal early due to an unexpected death in the family.
2 Ryanair flights, the first one to London was delayed and as such my folks missed the 2nd Ryanair flight. All Ryanair's fault. They had to book and pay again for the next flight. No apology, no explanation but they were too upset to complain and just paid Ryanair for the next flight.

Nope it was there fault for booking flights so close together, you'd be amazed how many people moan at me on a daily basis because one of their flights was delayed, not just ryanair, and they are gonna miss their connecting flight, and despite it having nothing to do with me, they all get the same answer, "you should'nt have booked the flights so close together, ooooh and its not my job so please move along"

donaldtramp

Nope it was there fault for booking flights so close together, you'd be amazed how many people moan at me on a daily basis because one of their flights was delayed, not just ryanair, and they are gonna miss their connecting flight, and despite it having nothing to do with me, they all get the same answer, "you should'nt have booked the flights so close together, ooooh and its not my job so please move along"

Absolute rubbish. You know nothing about the situation.
There should have been 2 HOURS in between the 2 flights if Pikeyair could've kept to schedule.
Any DECENT airline would sort you out if this happens but with Pikeyair you just get thrown a bunch of rules and regs and told where to go. I am truly amazed they are able to get any customers.
As for BA pricing themselves as a reasonable alternative to Ryanair, ARE you having a laugh?? There is absolutely no comparison. BA are in a different league.

Driver8

donaldtramp wrote: »

Absolute rubbish. You know nothing about the situation.
There should have been 2 HOURS in between the 2 flights if Pikeyair could've kept to schedule.
Any DECENT airline would sort you out if this happens but with Pikeyair you just get thrown a bunch of rules and regs and told where to go. I am truly amazed they are able to get any customers.
As for BA pricing themselves as a reasonable alternative to Ryanair, ARE you having a laugh?? There is absolutely no comparison. BA are in a different league.

How very true that BA are in a different league,..... for losing luggage. Remember the fiasco that the opening of Terminal 5 turned out to be? A national embarrassment.
Ryanair getting customers? Nearly every flight i have flown with them and it is a lot, has been nearly full or full. It's getting to the stage i'm getting miffed the stewardesses are forgetting to address me by my first name !! standards must be slipping but then again they only carry millions more than BA.

You pays your money and takes your choice.

ps every single flight i have been on with Ryanair as more or less been on schedule, if taking off ten minutes late the time will be made up. I don't think Mr O'Leary as good as he is at business as got god like abilities to control the weather which may delay or cancel flights, Rod Eddington hasn't either thats why he got pushed. Mr O'Leary is still in his job.