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  • :mad:hi wonder if any one can help! i got a parking ticket off the company ukcps for parking on private land on a retail park in a disabled space showing no badge in my works van for 4 mins even tho was only 1 min now asking for 60 pounds fine just wondered if it was inforceable or not help any one
  • peter_the_piper
    peter_the_piper Posts: 30,269 Forumite
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    Try reading all the posts on this thread and you will see that the best thing to do is to ignore them and make sure that your company does as well. Can't have them paying and then passing the charge to you can we.
    I'd rather be an Optimist and be proved wrong than a Pessimist and be proved right.
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 152,567 Forumite
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    edited 5 June 2010 at 1:47PM
    andyschol wrote: »
    :mad:hi wonder if any one can help! i got a parking ticket off the company ukcps for parking on private land on a retail park in a disabled space showing no badge in my works van for 4 mins even tho was only 1 min now asking for 60 pounds fine just wondered if it was inforceable or not help any one


    Basically, ignore it of course (see my signature) and as PTP says, make sure your employer does as well. This is a scam, it is not a real fine.

    But...you need to cover yourself now so no-one in your company takes it upon themselves to pay it, make sure they know about the scam of private parking tickets. Show them this thread (should have started your own thread really but never mind)! :)

    Maybe show your employers this link to Fleet News (which they may believe more than they would believe a bunch of strangers on a forum!). It confirms what we are saying here:

    http://www.fleetnews.co.uk/news/stor...ts-urged/50211

    It's also worth you checking any t&cs you've signed for, as part of your contract, to do with responsibility for 'fines'. I am guessing if it says anything, the contract might say the driver is responsible for 'speeding and/or parking fines'. If so you can which you can state clearly that this does NOT include the unenforceable piece of rubbish that UKPC stuck on the windscreen. It's not a fine.

    It is not enforceable and wouldn't go to Court anyway. UKPC don't do Court but they do send a heck of a lot of debt collector letters to the registered keeper so you need to make it very clear to your employer that the letters are trash. They are standard letters, computer-generated, not actually going to lead to any Court in the land. They are just a well-known part of this scam.

    You could ask your employer to forward the letters to you and that you take responsibility for it (as it's a scam anyway and are not worried by their threats). Or the company might like to tell UKPC to sod off. Or the company might like to tell UKPC that you were the driver, and as any alleged contract is with the driver then they will not expect or reply to any further correspondence.

    Here is a thread which shows you pictures of all UKPC's debt collector threatograms. See the first post and then scroll down to the UKPC letter scan links. Also look at the links to Debt Recovery Plus threatograms, as it has been reported recently that UKPC have started to use them instead (as well?). They are all hot air though:

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2214803

    Print the UKPC links and Debt Recovery Plus letters (you'll see those on the Parkforce Link) out and show them to your employer - then laugh as each matching threat arrives and is happily binned/ignored.

    Most of all, don't pay and don't let your company be stupid enough to pay these scammers.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • LANGO1966
    LANGO1966 Posts: 2,054 Forumite
    Hi Guys,

    just been to a retail park to order christmas present from Halfords.
    Parked in a disabled bay, for 10 minutes and never displayed a blue badge.
    Do I pay fine or ignore?
    Please help as the fear of the fine increasing and court proceeedings really scares me,

    thanks,

    Dave
  • taffy056
    taffy056 Posts: 4,895 Forumite
    LANGO1966 wrote: »
    Hi Guys,

    just been to a retail park to order christmas present from Halfords.
    Parked in a disabled bay, for 10 minutes and never displayed a blue badge.
    Do I pay fine or ignore?
    Please help as the fear of the fine increasing and court proceeedings really scares me,

    thanks,

    Dave

    Dave you ignore, the ticket is not enforceable, they have no loss, if they offer you a reduced rate for Mobilise don't take it up, if you can believe this, a disabled charity encourages you to pay in private car parks when they know full well that the blue badge scheme does not operate in private car parks, and parking bays are advisory only!

    So as I said IGNORE but file all letters you get and the ticket in a safe place, as you are about to enter into a letter chain of harassment from them.
    Excel Parking, MET Parking, Combined Parking Solutions, VP Parking Solutions, ANPR PC Ltd, & Roxburghe Debt Collectors. What do they all have in common?
    They are all or have been suspended from accessing the DVLA database for gross misconduct!
    Do you really need to ask what kind of people run parking companies?
  • trisontana
    trisontana Posts: 9,472 Forumite
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    LANGO1966 wrote: »
    Hi Guys,

    just been to a retail park to order christmas present from Halfords.
    Parked in a disabled bay, for 10 minutes and never displayed a blue badge.
    Do I pay fine or ignore?
    Please help as the fear of the fine increasing and court proceeedings really scares me,

    thanks,

    Dave

    Just ignore.
    What part of "A whop bop-a-lu a whop bam boo" don't you understand?
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 152,567 Forumite
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    LANGO1966 wrote: »
    Hi Guys,

    just been to a retail park to order christmas present from Halfords.
    Parked in a disabled bay, for 10 minutes and never displayed a blue badge.
    Do I pay fine or ignore?
    Please help as the fear of the fine increasing and court proceeedings really scares me,

    thanks,
    Dave



    As others have rightly said, ignore it and all letters. Nothing happens, no Court proceedings !!!!!!! You need to read up on this to see it's just a scam. You have NOT received a fine!

    Google 'private parking scam' and look for forum posts on here, pepipoo.com, consumer action group, all of which will tell you that such private parking tickets are unenforceable trash.

    Watchdog have covered this con twice this year, and their legal bod helpfully confirmed just what we tell everyone to do with fake parking tickets:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAIcdi9niHA

    :T:rotfl:

    The registered keeper will receive a few debt collector letters telling you to pay, but so what once you know they are just bog roll! Do not panic, do not believe the lies on the letters about Court/CCJs/dire consequences!

    They cannot just 'apply for' a CCJ, that's not how things work at all.


    See examples here of what sort of letters to ignore and be prepared for. Don't bother to actually read their threats when you get the matching threats, instead look at them now so you are ready to laugh when you get the whole predictable set:

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/....php?t=2214803

    To be proactive, if the scam letters get tiresome you may like to also report the company and their debt collectors for harassment:

    http://www.nationaldebtline.co.uk/en...=03_harassment

    But don't forget this is NOT a debt, NOT a fine, just a mickey mouse ticket.

    Nothing happens, your credit record is NOT affected, so don't fall for this con. :)

    Be angry about their illegal scary letters, tell your friends never to pay a private parking ticket, even if they have broken the car park's spurious 'rules'.

    But don't pay it! Spread the word. This ticket is a scam and the letters must be ignored.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • LANGO1966
    LANGO1966 Posts: 2,054 Forumite
    Thanks for the information and fast response.
    How much "JUNK MAIL" should I expect and over what period?
    Once again many thanks for putting my mind at rest

    dave
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 152,567 Forumite
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    You'll see all the letters on the link I gave to the 'PPC letters & scams' thread. :)
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • taffy056
    taffy056 Posts: 4,895 Forumite
    LANGO1966 wrote: »
    Thanks for the information and fast response.
    How much "JUNK MAIL" should I expect and over what period?
    Once again many thanks for putting my mind at rest

    dave

    It will probably be over the next 4 or 5 months and you will get 5 or 6 letters tops from various people, not quite sure who they use as debt collectors, but trust me they are powerless scammers whoever they are.
    Excel Parking, MET Parking, Combined Parking Solutions, VP Parking Solutions, ANPR PC Ltd, & Roxburghe Debt Collectors. What do they all have in common?
    They are all or have been suspended from accessing the DVLA database for gross misconduct!
    Do you really need to ask what kind of people run parking companies?
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