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shaven-monkey

Edelman wrote: »

People are all too quick to state our rubbish service is,

This is called a freudian slip.

And in other news...

Well, now i know why the matress threads grow into massive leviathans. It's like poking a wasps nest to talk about which vastly expensive sack of springs is more overpriced than the others.

Memory-foam or latex overlay panels for an existing matress.
Good or bad option?
I'm happy with my current matress but i want to be ecstatic with it.

Edelman

Yes you could, but with many other brands you wouldn't have paid way over the top for something that could be a dissapointment in 6 months time.

This could really be said of ANY product you buy though. Ie buy something cheap, if it goes wrong or is not great, then you haven't lost much.
To me, that's a kind of "buy cheap buy twice" problem.
For instance, I had to pay £35 for a set of blade for my car. If I bought cheapy ones, they wouldn't have been so good, or have lasted as long. The ones I have got are the best quality, bearing in mind the ones I replaced lasted 5 years!

So initial comfort was good, but how do you know support was good??? Just because it feels good, doesn't mean it is.

Err - yes it does.
If I buy a pair of shoes, and they feel supportive and comfortable, they are!! What other possible way is there to find out if a bed in a shop is supportive and comfortable.

I hear from people all the time who try a bed in a shop, but when they actually sleep on it they realise they have made a terrible mistake.

Agreed - but there isn't any other possible way to find out. Not you, not Bensons, not a single salesman in the World can do assure anyone of that.
You go by the quote above, as to whether your initial feelings of something, based on the factors you look for, are good enough for you.

That's complete rubbish.......yes quality may cost more, but more often than not you are paying for a name when you pay a lot of money.

Agreed to a point, but certainly not "complete rubbish". Buy yourself some standard jeans. Then buy some Levis or Timberland. I guarantee you, put through the same paces, the Levis or Timberland will outlast them. I had some Timberland that cost me a lot, but lasted me way more than the other cheaper jeans I had.

I do kinda feel that a lot of the negative views on here are just cynical views. "Oh that's expensive, too expensive, get something cheaper they are overprice just coz of that label". Which is the view of millions about branded products.

What type of fillings did the pillow top have?

Sorry I have no idea. I split with her many years ago.

Well that does show how people can be conned doesn't it. No mattress is worth £3500, and paying a high price doesn't guarantee comfort, support or quality.

I don't agree that this particular bed was conning people. And based on the other stories I have read online about beds, including StL, people pay over $5,000!!
Of all the beds I tried at Downtown in Boston, Lincolnshire, the expensive ones DID feel better, more comfort and more initial support than the cheaper models.

Am not going to say much more about turning mattresses. Based on the build on some yesterday, aint NOTHING moving about in those pillow tops.

That's not what I said. Most beds only have full guarantees for 12 months. After that it is often on a sliding scale. So it's another gimick because all they are doing is complying with the sale of goods act, but they use it as a sales gimmick.

I wish I knew what the hell you look for in a bed. Because you even slam 12 month guarantees!!! What do you want - 50 year??

The part you mention about salesman and how they operate does not respond to my comment at all, it only goes back to your cyncial view of how salesman - including you - operate. I know of NO salesman that doesn't want to sell, nor has to sell. They all want to make the business money, and themselves commission. But of the two I have seen lately, both were helpful. I am not going to into into a stupid discussion of "how do you know they are knowledgeable from what they say if you are not knowledgeable on all beds", because that's frankly a stupid thing to say.
I have to have faith in them. If I hear something that sounds dodgy, then you know. But me, I have to take them by faith, and mostly their attitude. If they have a typical sales speech type attitude, I "go off them".
The guy at Bensons was a little like that. But after a while, he was really fine, and not once did he push me.

I don't think you understand.......as most people know I am in the trade, so I won't recommend anything I will just give general advice based on my extensive knowledge of the bed industry.

Oh thanks - kind of you to offer some advice on the better brands, after all this talk about what is crap, that most sales people are crap etc. You don't tell us what is better.

What's the point, if you cannot use your apparent knowledge here, if not to say "don't get StL, look for ***** beds, in particular the ****** range.

Tim_Deegan

Edelman, you don't ever read what I say. You either can't understand (or don't want to) anything I say. Or is it just that you want to argue with anything I say???????

If so, then this conversation is over.

Edelman

I have today tried Sleepmaster Majesty which felt really nice. But £719 just for the mattress.
I also tried John Lewis which had a brilliant one for £775 for the mattress.

Oddly, none of these shops had even heard of Sleep to Live, which sort of says something. Though most of those sales people were quite young, so probably only know of their own store's brands.

I am now looking at Divans instead, because I can have storage and it can be sprung.

I have contacted Bensons to ask them what is the 'topping', as no one seems to know.

Tim_Deegan

Edelman wrote: »

I have today tried Sleepmaster Majesty which felt really nice. But £719 just for the mattress.
I also tried John Lewis which had a brilliant one for £775 for the mattress.

Oddly, none of these shops had even heard of Sleep to Live, which sort of says something. Though most of those sales people were quite young, so probably only know of their own store's brands.

I am now looking at Divans instead, because I can have storage and it can be sprung.

I have contacted Bensons to ask them what is the 'topping', as no one seems to know.

Sleep to Live are exclusive to Bensons in the UK.

Edelman

Yes I know, but if they work in the industry, you would have thought they'd know about the "latest technologies" and gimmicks in beds, wouldn't you!

but they didn't.

Tim_Deegan

Edelman wrote: »

Yes I know, but if they work in the industry, you would have thought they'd know about the "latest technologies" and gimmicks in beds, wouldn't you!

but they didn't.

No, because most soles staff in big stores are trained by that store to sell their products only.

Edelman

True - but you would think they'd know about other big name brands. Silentnight etc. But none knew of STL.

Tim_Deegan

Edelman wrote: »

True - but you would think they'd know about other big name brands. Silentnight etc. But none knew of STL.

No, for the reason I've just explained.

Edelman

Tim_Deegan wrote: »

No, for the reason I've just explained.

Therefore, a Bentley salesman wouldn't know about a Jaguar?
Or a Jaguar salesman wouldn't know about a Bentley?

Salesman on commission, trained to sell Jaguar or Bentley specifically.