help me help you save £100's on electricity bills

ecoed

does that help in finally responding to your comments????
oh and what if the 7 million users all had more energy effecient appliances because of this much needed piece of legislation......eh?££££££££££££saving expert ,,, ummm still wondering if your gonna get the point......luckly I've got faith and i know one day you'll see the reason behind this........

Plushchris wrote: »

My point, since you need it pointed out to you, is that you said this is a consumer ignorant world. Just under 7 million consumers logged into this website last month, how can you say thats ignorance?

ecoed

do you really think i'm just out to offend people???? 'passion' my good friend, it's one of the few great british cultural traditions still in tact!!!! As for ranting.... lol, my I remind you that YOUR NOT GETTING THE POINT!!!!!,,,, oop's silly me,,, ummm I really not out to offend, do yourself a favour and try seeing past your dis-informed judgement..... 'hug a tree'...... :rotfl:

mech wrote: »

Hardly. I gave you a link to the kind of thing you need. I'm sorry if it undermines your rant.

Let me spell it out for you: If you use a car adapter for your laptop you won't need to plug its mains adapter into an inverter in order to use it with your 12V batteries & solar panels.

You don't have a power consumption problem, you have a voltage problem.

(and a crack-pipe problem, but hey...)

dogder

whilst we are on the subject of consuming power and electrical appliances...

Would I be consuming less wattage if I replaced my old 19" monitor with one 'o them fancy flat screen doodads? lcd or plasma?

ecoed

and thats my point,, by passing this legislation you the customer will have the information and the answer to your question....

dogder wrote: »

whilst we are on the subject of consuming power and electrical appliances...

Would I be consuming less wattage if I replaced my old 19" monitor with one 'o them fancy flat screen doodads? lcd or plasma?

Plushchris

Unfortunately Ecoed its fanatical hypocritical nutcases like yourself that stop people from thinking and talking about green issues and products because their blinkered green tinted view on the world seems to stop them from seeing the bigger issues and the truth.

You have had it put to you by several people on this thread that there is NO WAY that the vast majority of appliances can have any sort of consumption figures labeled on them because it depends on what you are doing with the appliance.

I'm sure you would also be one of the first to come on here moaning if a product said it used xxKw on the label but when you used it it used more.

The current A, B, C ratings are enough for most people.

Go into your nearest Currys/Comet/PC World tomorrow and ask them how many peoples first question when buying a new TV is "How many watts does it use?" I bet its not many, most people buy TVs according to picture quality, most people buy PCs and laptops according to processing power, if these appliances are also a bit cheaper to run then thats a bonus but it just isnt a priority for the majority of people.

When I got my new washing machine and tumble drier I bought "A rated" ones, but my main priority for the tumble drier was making sure it was condensing one of the right size to fit where I needed it, the same goes for my washing machine.

Mech has suggested you use the power adaptor in your car to charge your laptop but you just seem to ignore him, instead you carry on using your solar panels and batteries that have a far heavier carbon footprint than the laptop charger I have plugged into my mains socket right now.


My question still stands, can you please prove to me how having a label on something I'm unlikely to buy in the next couple of years is going to save me £100s?

Could you also post how much fitting enough solar panels and batteries to power a small 2 bedroom flat would cost and the carbon footprint associated with making them and importing them?

If you cannot answer these questions then you are obviously not as serious about green issues as you think you are (or like everyone to think you are is probably more accurate)

dogder

Yes but will a flat screen be cheaper to run Chris?

Plushchris

Without knowing what you have at the moment and what you intend buying I wouldnt know.

If you currently have an old style CRT style monitor then I would have thought a flat panel monitor would be cheaper to run, at least I will admit to not being an expert unlike ecoed who will just quote your post without giving you an answer.

I'm sure someone will be along to give you a more accurate answer shortly..

albyota

very roughly, dodger but without looking. yes but only by about 80 watts but then your probably gonna leave it on for an extra hour or so ..... so err probably not.

Plushchris

I said shortly, I didnt expect immediately! lol

ecoed

Honestly this is ignorance going way to far....:) --well what did I expect..:) Dude do you even know what day it is?????? I've provided the evidence for this argument are you going to say any thing that even relates to my petition????
click the links on the post then give your opinion..... omg!!!!! gorra laugh....haha
seriously ' fanatical hypocritical nutcase' --- sounds like you watch to many soaps..... ---you make I laugh....:):):):)

Plushchris wrote: »

Unfortunately Ecoed its fanatical hypocritical nutcases like yourself that stop people from thinking and talking about green issues and products because their blinkered green tinted view on the world seems to stop them from seeing the bigger issues and the truth.

You have had it put to you by several people on this thread that there is NO WAY that the vast majority of appliances can have any sort of consumption figures labeled on them because it depends on what you are doing with the appliance.

I'm sure you would also be one of the first to come on here moaning if a product said it used xxKw on the label but when you used it it used more.

The current A, B, C ratings are enough for most people.

Go into your nearest Currys/Comet/PC World tomorrow and ask them how many peoples first question when buying a new TV is "How many watts does it use?" I bet its not many, most people buy TVs according to picture quality, most people buy PCs and laptops according to processing power, if these appliances are also a bit cheaper to run then thats a bonus but it just isnt a priority for the majority of people.

When I got my new washing machine and tumble drier I bought "A rated" ones, but my main priority for the tumble drier was making sure it was condensing one of the right size to fit where I needed it, the same goes for my washing machine.

Mech has suggested you use the power adaptor in your car to charge your laptop but you just seem to ignore him, instead you carry on using your solar panels and batteries that have a far heavier carbon footprint than the laptop charger I have plugged into my mains socket right now.


My question still stands, can you please prove to me how having a label on something I'm unlikely to buy in the next couple of years is going to save me £100s?

Could you also post how much fitting enough solar panels and batteries to power a small 2 bedroom flat would cost and the carbon footprint associated with making them and importing them?

If you cannot answer these questions then you are obviously not as serious about green issues as you think you are (or like everyone to think you are is probably more accurate)