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never-in-doubt

Innocent_Guy wrote: »

The fountain of info I say - I've got the same address written down but with fraud dept as oppose to credit referrals. I managed to get a fax number aswell. I may send over my birth cert tommorow.

There you go then, glad my data tallies with yours at least you know it aint BS!

Hmmm, i'd be typing an exteremly firm letter with one last chance sending a copy of your birth cert (fax whetever) and tell them if they do not remove all data, including historical data then you'll sue them.

They know damn well fine if you take this further you will win! Your old man a high up copper only goes to serve a better purpose then, don't use this in anything you write cos he wouldn't necessarily know civil law in that respect and orange will know this and fob you off. Say you've been advised by the ICO and FSA to give them one last chance to remove all traces of the account or you'll seek redress through the courts.

They will remove it mate within a week, i'd say.

never-in-doubt

Innocent_Guy wrote: »

To tell you the truth, the guy from experian told me that he has issues with Orange himself and he had to go to the ICO. He said Orange would remove the data and then issue it again every month on there updates....

Nah, they can't do that. When they remove it they have no legal right to add it again cos in essence when they agree to take it off it means the account is null and void and the moment it reappears they are breaking the law and can be held liable to libel claims.

It needs manual intervention with a very stongly worded letter. :j

Innocent_Guy

never-in-doubt wrote: »

There you go then, glad my data tallies with yours at least you know it aint BS!

Hmmm, i'd be typing an exteremly firm letter with one last chance sending a copy of your birth cert (fax whetever) and tell them if they do not remove all data, including historical data then you'll sue them.

They know damn well fine if you take this further you will win! Your old man a high up copper only goes to serve a better purpose then, don't use this in anything you write cos he wouldn't necessarily know civil law in that respect and orange will know this and fob you off. Say you've been advised by the ICO and FSA to give them one last chance to remove all traces of the account or you'll seek redress through the courts.

They will remove it mate within a week, i'd say.

Tommorow is my last day annual leave so I will be spending it on the computer completing my SAR's and writing to orange.

What a day to spend my last day off!

Innocent_Guy

never-in-doubt wrote: »

There you go then, glad my data tallies with yours at least you know it aint BS!

Hmmm, i'd be typing an exteremly firm letter with one last chance sending a copy of your birth cert (fax whetever) and tell them if they do not remove all data, including historical data then you'll sue them.

They know damn well fine if you take this further you will win! Your old man a high up copper only goes to serve a better purpose then, don't use this in anything you write cos he wouldn't necessarily know civil law in that respect and orange will know this and fob you off. Say you've been advised by the ICO and FSA to give them one last chance to remove all traces of the account or you'll seek redress through the courts.

They will remove it mate within a week, i'd say.

Tommorow is my last day annual leave so I will be spending it on the computer completing my SAR's and writing to orange.

What a day to spend my last day off!

Innocent_Guy

never-in-doubt wrote: »

Nah, they can't do that. When they remove it they have no legal right to add it again cos in essence when they agree to take it off it means the account is null and void and the moment it reappears they are breaking the law and can be held liable to libel claims.

It needs manual intervention with a very stongly worded letter. :j

This is my exact thinking. If they have removed it, they are agreeing that it was incorrect so by supplying it again they are contradicting themselves...

never-in-doubt

Innocent_Guy wrote: »

Tommorow is my last day annual leave so I will be spending it on the computer completing my SAR's and writing to orange.

What a day to spend my last day off!

The Sar's is an east cut/paste job (the addresses are all there to copy/paste from the link in vanquis thread)....

Just use the main template, you don't need to change it. Then just print, save as, change to the next and so on! Then when you come to cifas/hunters, delete that paragraph and change the amount you're sending from 2 quid to ten and you're all done.

Took me less than an hour but took 5hrs to compile letter!!!! sods law. There wasn't a template designed for CRA's anywhere!

never-in-doubt

Innocent_Guy wrote: »

This is my exact thinking. If they have removed it, they are agreeing that it was incorrect so by supplying it again they are contradicting themselves...

......... and each time they do it is a form of slander as it is causing you financial loss through no fault of your own - only because of the info that Orange posted about you.

Is that your only one or have you other issues, had other issues that you think have cleared up?

Innocent_Guy

never-in-doubt wrote: »

The Sar's is an east cut/paste job (the addresses are all there to copy/paste from the link in vanquis thread)....

Just use the main template, you don't need to change it. Then just print, save as, change to the next and so on! Then when you come to cifas/hunters, delete that paragraph and change the amount you're sending from 2 quid to ten and you're all done.

Took me less than an hour but took 5hrs to compile letter!!!! sods law. There wasn't a template designed for CRA's anywhere!

The letter looks very proffesional, I would assume it was written by a lawyer....... ( I wonder if you have got a big head tonight )

Innocent_Guy

never-in-doubt wrote: »

......... and each time they do it is a form of slander as it is causing you financial loss through no fault of your own - only because of the info that Orange posted about you.

Is that your only one or have you other issues, had other issues that you think have cleared up?

Had 30 links :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: Just orange left.....

I think that with all of these links the has got to be hidden info :rotfl:

never-in-doubt

Remember - never ever communicate by phone. never ring them. If they ring you tell them to write and hang up! Never speak to them as there is no proof.

Also ensure you're familiar with Data Protection and provision of data reports (credit agencies) cos knowing this will help you win. In a nutshell, you must mention the facts and clauses (sub para's etc) when you threaten them with DPA breaches. You cannot simply say 'that is a breach of data protection'.

In your case you'd be looking to say something like:

Schedule II, Section 12 (1) of the Data Protection Act allows all data subjects the right to insist on the removal of any and all data from automated processes in respect of matters relating to them. I have reproduced that clause for your information, in case you do not have a copy to hand;

An individual is entitled at any time, by notice in writing to any data controller, to require the data controller to ensure that no decision taken by or on behalf of the data controller which significantly affects that individual is based solely on the processing by automatic means of personal data in respect of which that individual is the data subject for the purpose of evaluating matters relating to him such as, for example, his performance at work, his creditworthiness, his reliability or his conduct.

You will note the exact language of the Act, in that such a request may be made in relation to a number of different reference checks "which significantly affects that individual", and the Acts specifically cites "credit worthiness" as one of those examples.

Recent checks on my file have caused severe complications, and now "significantly affect" my everyday life, and that of my family. An additional point to note is that issues of this nature that adversely affect "normal family life" are in breach of the Human Rights Act.

Therefore, you have seven days from receipt of this letter to remove all such data from your system where it is referenced and processed via automated processes. You will obviously need to transfer it to your manual process system and alert your customers that my data can no longer be searched via an automatic process.

I look forward to receiving your confirmation that the above change has been made to my file at the end of that seven day period.


NB:
I reserve the right to revoke this temporary permission at any time, at my sole discretion, and will issue a further Statutory Notice to you if I wish to carry out such a revocation.

Any decision to temporarily allow automated process does not confer upon Equifax/Experian (or any of its directors, employees or agents) any express or implied rights, or permission, in respect of the future collation, storage and processing of my personal data.

Please ensure that you understand that any permission is purely of a temporary nature, and confirm this understanding by return, including your adherence to my terms. Any failure to confirm this in writing within seven working days will automatically attach the presumption that you understand these conditions and will adhere to them.