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Orchid V4, V4+ Programing Tool Support

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  • icebergx
    icebergx Posts: 688 Forumite
    edited 26 September 2013 at 4:51AM
    Heinz wrote: »
    A # within a V4's Carrier programming denotes a one second pause so you'd need to use up to five at the end of the 0844 number to allow time for the announcement to start anyway.

    However, a # in the dialled string is allowed through just like a number is so, dialling the target mobile or international number with a # on the end does just that.

    If I understand you correctly, this should do the trick in the Carrier programming: *#**08448612727#####*1
    Would that be correct?

    Secondly, does that mean manually adding "#" at the end of every dialed mobile number? Is there anyway to automate this, so that the additional manual "#" entry is not required, and takes place automatically?

    Thanks very much for your help Heinz. :)
  • Heinz
    Heinz Posts: 11,191 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker Car Insurance Carver!
    Yes, *#**08448612727#####*1 would be correct for programming 08448612727 as your Carrier number one.

    Sorry, there's no way to automate the insertion of a # at the end of specific dialled numbers.
    Time has moved on (much quicker than it used to - or so it seems at my age) and my previous advice on residential telephony has been or is now gradually being overtaken by changes in the retail market. Hence, I have now deleted links to my previous 'pearls of wisdom'. I sincerely hope they helped save some of you money.
  • Heinz wrote: »
    Yes, *#**08448612727#####*1 would be correct for programming 08448612727 as your Carrier number one.

    Sorry, there's no way to automate the insertion of a # at the end of specific dialled numbers.

    Brilliant... Thanks for that Heinz.
  • blanik wrote: »
    3 ways to use the spreadsheet:-

    use a computer / laptop with a build in modem, the problem is that newer laptops do not have them as standard.

    Add a USB modem - you can usually find cheap ones on ebay/

    Use the spreadsheet to generate the codes, then enter them manually via a telephone handset.

    I have started to use the spreadsheet to generate the codes but I am finding this rather confusing.

    So far I have updated the current time, weekday and weekend time bands manually using a telephone handset. How can I be sure that they have updated?

    Before I update the carrier code and routing tables is there any way of finding out what I currently have programmed?

    I have had the Orchid Dailler for 7 or 8 years and have never really changed anything. However, I have now moved my line rental and calls from (BT/Hive Telecom) to the postoffice and need to update this.
  • Before I update the carrier code and routing tables is there any way of finding out what I currently have programmed?

    Like you, I've used an Orchid box for quite a few years without many changes. Whilst they were a good bit of cheap kit, they did have several limitations, such as the above (and the ability to lose the clock setting if the line was disconnected).

    Some people have obtained devices which display the digits being dialled - which effectively shows you what is programmed. I couldn't find one just now on Google or Ebay but they are available. Good luck!
  • Lplates
    Lplates Posts: 93 Forumite
    This is the type of device I have used.

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/110574206442

    Wired between the modem and the dialler, it will allow you to check the programming strings sent to the dialler.

    Wired between the dialler and the phone line, it will allow you to check the DTMF sent to line (and thereby verify that the dialler is functioning correctly).
  • Heinz
    Heinz Posts: 11,191 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker Car Insurance Carver!
    Many readers will have seen the worrying posting HERE which, if (probably when) implemented will have a major effect on the Orchid V4 'Heinz program' which a good few people are still using.

    Needless to say, I am one of those so I'm keeping a close eye on developments and will post again if/when necessary.
    Time has moved on (much quicker than it used to - or so it seems at my age) and my previous advice on residential telephony has been or is now gradually being overtaken by changes in the retail market. Hence, I have now deleted links to my previous 'pearls of wisdom'. I sincerely hope they helped save some of you money.
  • I have been lurking here for many years and appreciate all the support you have given Heinz.I have a V4 and CPS with Primus,it was set up so long ago I have forgotten more than I remember.I am with O2 for broadband and BT for line rental.I had hoped to retain the BT line when Sky shut the O2 network down purely to allow the Orchid dialer, which has saved me hundreds of pounds over the years.With the prospect of BT not allowing CPS in the future I feel I should be exploring alternative strategies ie VOIP/GPS gateways . Is there already a similar group/forum or could we create a similar friendly forum such as this to discuss the way forward.I don't think any other provider allows CPS, does Virgin allow VOIP over its fibre?.Idont really want my line rental to go to sky either so my choice of Broadband provider will be dependent on the strategy I choose.
    Rgds oldgit:(
  • blanik
    blanik Posts: 125 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 100 Posts Combo Breaker
    Strictly 18185 is Indirect Access, because you dial a prefix code, and not CPS - where the carrier is pre-selected.

    18185 also offer a freephone access number, at a slightly higher call rate, which works fine with Virgin landlines and I presume will work with BT.
  • Lplates
    Lplates Posts: 93 Forumite
    Don't forget -

    Orchid users should remember to reset the dialler’s internal clock to GMT early tomorrow morning (or at some other more convenient time).

    Resetting the clock from the attached phone can be done by a sequence of keystrokes, as follows:

    * * # 0 0 0 0 *
    hhmm
    DOW
    ddmmyy
    * 2

    (this sequence is shown on five lines to improve legibility – when setting the time the entire sequence is entered without breaks), where

    hhmm is four digits representing the current time in 24-hour format
    DOW (day of week) is one digit representing the current day (Monday = 1, Sunday = 7)
    ddmmyy is six digits representing the current date

    For example, to set the clock at 3pm tomorrow, key in

    * * # 0 0 0 0 *
    1500
    7
    271013
    * 2

    and hang up.
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