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Orchid V4, V4+ Programing Tool Support

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  • wmathias
    wmathias Posts: 53 Forumite
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    edited 1 January 2014 at 2:50PM
    Quentin wrote: »
    Changes of years or bank holidays haven't previously affected orchids ???

    Sorry, I meant that BT are supposed to be no longer allowing CPS in 2014 (which may be why they have dropped their requirement for 2 chargeable calls per month, because you can't do it anyway). The other part of my post (about it being a bank holiday) should be ignored (because I was wrong :))
  • Quentin
    Quentin Posts: 40,405 Forumite
    Where have you seen that bt are supposed to no longer allow cps?

    If that comes to pass they will give notice.
  • wmathias
    wmathias Posts: 53 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10 Posts
    Quentin wrote: »
    Where have you seen that bt are supposed to no longer allow cps?

    If that comes to pass they will give notice.

    They were being forced to allow it and they no longer are:

    I can't post links, but digital spy thread 1894107 covers this subject
  • Quentin
    Quentin Posts: 40,405 Forumite
    wmathias wrote: »
    They were being forced to allow it and they no longer are:

    I can't post links, but digital spy thread 1894107 covers this subject

    If you no longer are getting your calls via your CPS, then your Orchid will still "allow" you to make the call, so you will be unaware at the time you call, but it will be carried by BT, and you will get the bill for it from BT.

    (This topic of Ofcom intending that BT no longer have to offer CPS and IA is discussed in this thread above #768, but so far as we are aware no announcement regarding this has been forthcoming from BT. The requirement to make calls via BT to keep free caller display is because the caller display is no longer free after 4/1/14. Maybe you put 2 qnd 2 together but got 5??)
  • Heinz
    Heinz Posts: 11,191 Forumite
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    wmathias wrote: »
    I can't post links, but digital spy thread 1894107 covers this subject
    Correct, it does: http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1894107

    Or, from the horse's mouth: http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/consultations/nmr-13/statement/statement-summary
    Time has moved on (much quicker than it used to - or so it seems at my age) and my previous advice on residential telephony has been or is now gradually being overtaken by changes in the retail market. Hence, I have now deleted links to my previous 'pearls of wisdom'. I sincerely hope they helped save some of you money.
  • wmathias
    wmathias Posts: 53 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10 Posts
    Quentin wrote: »
    If you no longer are getting your calls via your CPS, then your Orchid will still "allow" you to make the call, so you will be unaware at the time you call, but it will be carried by BT, and you will get the bill for it from BT.

    I'm definitely getting the 0p per minute message on connection, so it must be OK at the mo.
    Quentin wrote: »
    (This topic of Ofcom intending that BT no longer have to offer CPS and IA is discussed in this thread above #768, but so far as we are aware no announcement regarding this has been forthcoming from BT.

    Do you think the'd give advance notice then?
    Quentin wrote: »
    The requirement to make calls via BT to keep free caller display is because the caller display is no longer free after 4/1/14. Maybe you put 2 qnd 2 together but got 5??)
    I very much hope so.

    I wonder if Martin could get primus to commit to another year of allowing CPS etc, then I'd feel comfortable changing come March when my advance line rental runs out.
  • Heinz
    Heinz Posts: 11,191 Forumite
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    wmathias wrote: »
    I wonder if Martin could get primus to commit to another year of allowing CPS etc.
    You mean IA (Indirect Access) - 18185. 1899 or 18866.
    Time has moved on (much quicker than it used to - or so it seems at my age) and my previous advice on residential telephony has been or is now gradually being overtaken by changes in the retail market. Hence, I have now deleted links to my previous 'pearls of wisdom'. I sincerely hope they helped save some of you money.
  • Quentin
    Quentin Posts: 40,405 Forumite
    wmathias wrote: »
    I'm definitely getting the 0p per minute message on connection, so it must be OK at the mo........

    You look to be referring to IA (indirect access), which is where you use a 18185 type service not CPS.

    (Though ofcom have said that bt will be allowed to prevent their use too (as well as CPS).

    It would seem inevitable that bt will want to take advantage of this, but will undoubtedly give some notice.
  • ericthelobster
    ericthelobster Posts: 134 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 100 Posts Photogenic
    edited 2 January 2014 at 5:59PM
    I have an old V4 which I haven't really used since the manufacturer sadly pulled the rug... sounds as if they are still reasonably sought after(?) so I thought I might stick it on ebay rather than bin it.

    However, I can't remember whether it has sensitive information loaded onto it, and if so, I ought to wipe it first. Can anybody advise how to do that please (if it's indeed necessary/advisable?)

    Thanks!
  • Quentin
    Quentin Posts: 40,405 Forumite
    As far as we know nothing incriminating is held or can be revealed.

    You can wipe the carrier codes table by entering **#0000*2222*6 and the routing table by entering **#0000*1111*6
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