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Orchid V4, V4+ Programing Tool Support

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  • markja_2
    markja_2 Posts: 28 Forumite
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    I notice that the 18/9/2009 (ver 1.7.0) spreadsheet still has ver 1.4.0 listed in cell C2 on the config sheet. I assume this is a typo and should be 1.7.0.

    Mark J
  • Yep, poor attention to detail on my part :-(
  • Hi all,
    I used the Orchid V4 Dialler regularly back in 2006-2007 but was not able to use it when I switched my phone service to Utility Warehouse as they did not allow the use of LCR boxes on the line. So I uninstalled it. I'm back on a BT line now and wish to use the Orchid dialler again but now I find that the Orchid force home server does not work.
    I gather from reading this thread that there are two methods to still use the dialler:
    1) An analogue dial up modem together with Kevin Lawry's spreadsheet.
    2) Dialling tones using my telephone keypad

    Despite getting a vague idea of how this is done, I cannot find any definitive post on how both ways can be done. So...
    Can someone point me to a definitive explanation on how to get my dialler working again with either method.
    e.g. How do I physically connect the analogue modem to the Orchid?
    What codes do I dial into my phone keypad and how does the Orchid recieve these codes?

    Yours Quizzically (but gratefully),

    McCartrey
  • Heinz
    Heinz Posts: 11,191 Forumite
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    edited 13 October 2009 at 8:07PM
    First, plug the Orchid in as you used to (Orchid into the telephone wall socket and telephone into one of the sockets in the Orchid).

    You probably don't know the details of your Orchid's program so clearing it completely is probably the best starting point. To do so:

    (1). Clear the entire Carrier Code table by entering the following sequence on your telephone keypad:
    ** # 0000 * 2222 * 6

    (2). Clear the entire Routing Code table by entering the following sequence on your telephone keypad:
    ** # 0000 * 1111 * 6

    Now, use Kevin's spreadsheet to develop your own program. That assumes a BT landline, a CPS calls carrier which gives inclusive evening and weekend UK 01/02/03 calls and a 18185 account.
    Time has moved on (much quicker than it used to - or so it seems at my age) and my previous advice on residential telephony has been or is now gradually being overtaken by changes in the retail market. Hence, I have now deleted links to my previous 'pearls of wisdom'. I sincerely hope they helped save some of you money.
  • OK, so I dial in the clear Carrier Code table digits, the clear Routing Code table, then start to dial in all the codes to refill the carrier and routing code tables again. How do I know that these have been successfully accepted by the Orchid dialler? Is it just a case of trying out telephone numbers or checking the bill later on?

    For the modem method, how do I connect the modem to the orchid box, I would have the orchid plugged into the main socket, the phone into one of the other sockets on the orchid. That leaves the second socket in the orchid free. Is this where the modem plugs into?

    Thanks for helping.
  • Heinz
    Heinz Posts: 11,191 Forumite
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    mccartrey wrote: »
    OK, so I dial in the clear Carrier Code table digits, the clear Routing Code table, then start to dial in all the codes to refill the carrier and routing code tables again. How do I know that these have been successfully accepted by the Orchid dialler? Is it just a case of trying out telephone numbers or checking the bill later on?

    For the modem method, how do I connect the modem to the orchid box, I would have the orchid plugged into the main socket, the phone into one of the other sockets on the orchid. That leaves the second socket in the orchid free. Is this where the modem plugs into?

    Thanks for helping.
    The loss of Orchid's server means that the only way to be sure your manual or automated programming has been successful is to make calls.

    If you use the modem method, it might be a good idea to add a very specific Routing Code/Rule to help in that respect. For example, Rule 99 could be used in association with a Carrier Code which translates the dialling of, say, 199 to your own mobile number. If it rings your mobile, it works!

    You are exactly right with your idea about connecting the PC/modem to the Orchid.
    Time has moved on (much quicker than it used to - or so it seems at my age) and my previous advice on residential telephony has been or is now gradually being overtaken by changes in the retail market. Hence, I have now deleted links to my previous 'pearls of wisdom'. I sincerely hope they helped save some of you money.
  • Thanks Heinz, I'll try both methods and see what works. Much regards to you for the advice
  • I bought the V3 dialler, which when I phoned Orchid up, was all they were offering as they did not sell V4 anymore. I asked what the difference was, and the V3 doesn't include an inbuilt clock.
    Onters, 10.10.09
    Which begs one question - does Kevin's tremendous programme keep the time for all needs, irrespective of inbuilt timer?

    And reminds me of one other - is there still the need to update our boxes on changing to GMT and BST each year?

    Many Thanks especially to Heinz and Kevin, and to all other posters who keep this thread active.

    Dog Watch
  • Heinz
    Heinz Posts: 11,191 Forumite
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    edited 15 October 2009 at 3:51PM
    Heinz wrote: »
    If you use the modem method, it might be a good idea to add a very specific Routing Code/Rule to help in that respect. For example, Rule 99 could be used in association with a Carrier Code which translates the dialling of, say, 199 to your own mobile number. If it rings your mobile, it works!
    For example, assuming your mobile number was 07989 012345, you might, for test purposes only, insert a new Carrier Code No.7 like this:
    * # * * 07989012345 * 7

    and then a new Routing Code/Rule No.99 like this:
    * # # # 199 # 5777 # 99 #
    Dog_Watch wrote: »
    And reminds me of one other - is there still the need to update our boxes on changing to GMT and BST each year?
    Yes, my usual post has been prepared already: Orchid diallers - BST to GMT clock change (Sunday 25th October 2009).
    Time has moved on (much quicker than it used to - or so it seems at my age) and my previous advice on residential telephony has been or is now gradually being overtaken by changes in the retail market. Hence, I have now deleted links to my previous 'pearls of wisdom'. I sincerely hope they helped save some of you money.
  • dave_dph
    dave_dph Posts: 651 Forumite
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    Just used the spreadsheet for the first time using a Lucent Win Modem on XP. Everything seems to have worked, will take the V4 back to moms later to test!
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