W I V Internatianal Wines

Pete68_2

Your response of "whatever!!!" shows lack of thought don't you think?
Excuse me but I am offended by people like you who ignore facts in preference to supporting your own argument.
Bamber is the same - opinions with no basis. I guess you're just cynical. That's okay to a degree.
But because I have experience with the company and their wine, it's hits a nerve.
I wonder what you would think if people bagged something you know and like, before they cared to check out the facts?

sillyvixen wrote: »

whatever !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bamber19

Pete68 wrote: »

Bamber is the same - opinions with no basis. I guess you're just cynical.

The basis is that the only positives i've heard about this company come from employees or one post wonders whilst everything else i hear about them is negative, both on this forum and out there in the real world. We've even had a revelation from the most vocal of supporters of this company that he was in fact talking nonsense and they are a terrible company.

Kobiashi

:beer:Hi,

I received a call from WIV (Pieroth Wines) after filling in the survey. They came around dropped of their free weather station which is ok. It is not a scam. They let me sample 12 wines.

Now I’m a wine lover and think their wines are very good. They only sell by the case but I can tell you I was not pressured into buying anything. Their not part of a club where you get sent a case every 3 months. They did not hard sell whatsoever.

I don't work for Pieroth nor am I associated with them in anyway but their wines are good. And that is coming from someone who knows his wines not like some of these people who probably drink lambrusco

PaulPaul

You wont get six bottles of wine.. its a wine tasting session in your living room in tiny measures and the wine is £10 + per bottle + VAT and you will have to buy 12 ..the wine tastes great but its expensive .. read the marketing..you dont nothing for nothing in this life

philhuff

I've just got this promo, and hadn't heard of WIV. However, a little research (including this thread) shows they're part of the same group that own Hallgarten Wines.

My Father-in-Law has worked for them for countless years, and on the wine side, and not accounts or HR!

Assuming it's the same wines on offer, as they seem to share the same premises in Luton, then the wine certainly isn't cheap. However, it's very definitely not cheap wine and if you're the sort of person, like me, that doesn't mind paying a bit extra for something a bit better, then it may not be a bad deal - sales calls detailed above excepted.

I'm tempted to respond and, when visited, just leave a few Hallgarten boxes lying around the place, with the F-in-L's business card on the table :rotfl:

Forris

I received one of these 'surveys' this morning and thought I would just give it a Google before sending it back. I think I may now just put it in the bin. I realise that the company are probably above board (if a little pushy), but the thing that struck me was that there was no 'small-print' or disclaimer on the letter to tell you what would happen (ie. phone call and visit). It seems a bit too cleverly worded and slightly underhand (and maybe even breaking some rules for direct marketing?) for my liking.

aromulus

philhuff wrote: »

I've just got this promo, and hadn't heard of WIV. However, a little research (including this thread) shows they're part of the same group that own Hallgarten Wines.
I'm tempted to respond and, when visited, just leave a few Hallgarten boxes lying around the place, with the F-in-L's business card on the table :rotfl:

I am sure that the rep wouldn't have the slightest idea, he would assume that they were from some wine club or the other and not associate them with the company at all.

Athelstan30

I attended one of the wine tastings yesterday evening, thankfully at my Brother-in Laws house. I was driving so not drinking. My opinion for what its worth? Hugely overpriced wines, very pushy salesman, (ex insurance sales), and samples served in tiny plastic beakers. I did taste some of the wines, since the samples were so small, I guess I had less than 5 cl altogether! The salesman could not pronounce many of the names of the wines, could not tell me what grapes were involved, told me that the one AOC Bordeaux had "claret in it". and also made the claim that his wines were hangover free.
I asked if there was any connection between his "Romanet" company, and Romanee Conti or any of the Romanee Burgundy vineyards. I was greeted by a blank stare, and was told to stop interrupting his flow of patter.

He sold over £600 in wines to the assembled throng, which I fail to understand. He was charging over £18 for a south african Grimont that I could buy at Waitrose for about £7.

I have no connection with the company or any other wine sales, but I do hold a Master of Wine Diploma, from a UK Uni, and specialise in training people in the licensed trade in French wines, particularly Burgundies and wines from south west france.

lemonic

From reading through the other posts I gather that this is a genuine offer. However, the catch is that they come to your house for the tasting - that seems to be what they actually mean by "Please enter your phone number to arrange delivery of gift".

I'm not keen on having some rep come over to my house and ply me with booze. I once made the mistake of having one of those kitchen people over and it was hard work getting him to leave, eventually after 3 hours he left after we were forced to resort to the threat of calling the police.

Thinking about it, I don't think this sort of thing is fair, especially to vulnerable groups. I wish they'd just be open about it in the letter and say that they come to your house... and anyone who is not open about this type of tactic is being underhand, in my opinion.

discwise

WIV offer is a cover to collect your information for alpha debt collection. My neighbour sent the offer away and 2 weeks later he had someone at his door about a debt from a few years back that he was protected form by a scottish trust deed. the company claimed they could still chase him for this old debt and that he had comfirmed he still lives at the address they had by filling in a false survey the sent him. So if you have debts look out they are after you. How did they get your detail in ther first place?????????.