Theft by a Virgin Engineer - help

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Daytona_nev wrote: »

So you think its practical advice to suggest the OP possibly rack up thousands in potential court costs and solicitors fees to take someone to court for a private prosecution where even the CPS have NFA'd it due to lack of evidence.

Get real!

I SAID if you have legal cover under your house hold policy, i.e. no cost to OP, one phone call and an expert would decide weather to prosecute or not.

I am very real in that I don't let thieves and scum get away with crap like this.

mspig

Bamber19 wrote: »

I believe the advice to do this hindered on the question of whether they had legal cover or not, there was never going to be any cost to the OP, that said though I'm not sure there's many insurance companies would be willing to take up a private prosecution for their client for a £70-100 pair of straightners, especially as you say, with no concrete evidence. Whilst i believe they have went missing and it's possible, even likely, that the engineer took them, the fact that the OP has searched all over the house tells me they themselves at least had some doubt that they hadn't left the straighteners where they thought they were and hence couldn't honestly say "the engineer must have stolen them" if they weren't even sure where they were in the first place. Perhaps a slightly flawed logic but i'd say that's reasonable doubt.

oh come on how many times have you known that you have put something in a certain place but you still search the rest of the house looking for it knowing exactly that the only place it would be is where you left it - only to find that one of the kids etc has moved it.
But if noone else was in the house except engineer Op and her hubby, the front door is shut(and cannot be opened from the outside), she knows exactly where the straigteners are and even sees them there whilst engineer is working, then when he leaves they are gone and neither hubby or the op have moved them and noone else in the house - i would say that 2 and 2 make 4.

Daytona_nev

mspig wrote: »

oh come on how many times have you known that you have put something in a certain place but you still search the rest of the house looking for it knowing exactly that the only place it would be is where you left it - only to find that one of the kids etc has moved it.
But if noone else was in the house except engineer Op and her hubby, the front door is shut(and cannot be opened from the outside), she knows exactly where the straigteners are and even sees them there whilst engineer is working, then when he leaves they are gone and neither hubby or the op have moved them and noone else in the house - i would say that 2 and 2 make 4.

Unfortunately that doesn't constitute evidence. It's purely circumstancial.

inspace

Sorry to hear this mum of 4 - it sounds to me like he definataly took them maybe as a present for someone - theiving sod.

Looks like youll have to put it down to exp and plod on as it all sounds like its gonna go nowhere now.

I know you help a lot of poeple on these threads with the veggies and other stuff so ill wish you lots of good luck and send some good karma dust.:smileyhea

mspig

Daytona_nev wrote: »

Unfortunately that doesn't constitute evidence. It's purely circumstancial.

It would be enough evidence for me to call the police anyway - can't believe that there is people out there who would let someone get away with theft.

Just because no one saw someone murder someone doesn't mean that the said person didn't do it does it, not all evidence is collected through the eyes you know

Daytona_nev

mspig wrote: »

Just because no one saw someone murder someone doesn't mean that the said person didn't do it does it, not all evidence is collected through the eyes you know

I hardly think that's a comparison.

The only way this could be proven is by way of confession or finding the goods in his possession.

mspig

Daytona_nev wrote: »

I hardly think that's a comparison.

The only way this could be proven is by way of confession or finding the goods in his possession.

Wasen't trying to find a comparison, was trying to prove that just because she didn't see him take them doesn't mean he didn't take them.

mum_of_4

Many thanks everyone.

I've never had anything taken before and I can't believe how angry it makes you feel, god knows what's it like when your whole house is turned upside down. Hope I never find out.

inspace - thanks, the police said that and that's why they thought he'd still have them at the house and why he may of known what they were worth

mspig - that's what we thought. The police are happy to pursue it, they have taken our statements and told us that with regret this type of crime goes on a lot but not enough people report it. But as virgin went ahead and spoke to the engineer tthe police said they don't hold out much hope. However they are still going to run his name through their system incase he's on the database. They also said he might do it again so our statements might help a future case.


Daytona_nev - not much chance of finding them now thanks to virgin

Bamber19

mspig wrote: »

Wasen't trying to find a comparison, was trying to prove that just because she didn't see him take them doesn't mean he didn't take them.

I think you've misunderstood what I was saying, my gut instinct is that the engineer will have taken them but proving it is a completely different matter. I don't think it's been suggested by anyone that the fact she hasn't seen the item being taken means it wasn't taken at all.

Elmer_Dudd

Going on what you have said there seems little doubt that the straighteners must have taken by the engineer.

When you rule out all the if's and but's and maybes put in by the armchair barristers on here that can be the only logical conclusion.

I am surprised that the police are stalling on this. You have made an official complaint of theft and they should 'speak' to the engineer.

If you are getting no joy ask to speak to the investigating officers superiors and push it forward.

Try these emails: [EMAIL="steve.burch@virginmedia.co.uk"]steve.burch@virginmedia.co.uk[/EMAIL] or [EMAIL="Neil.berkett@virginmedia.co.uk"]Neil.berkett@virginmedia.co.uk[/EMAIL]


or write to:

Sir Richard Branson's Office,
Virgin Management Ltd,
120, Campden Hill Road,
London, W8 7AR


Elmer:cool: