Help!Buyer constantly delaying payment

motorguy

well if it was my phone and he hadnt paid for it, id be wanting to stop him using it. plus realistically, how quick is this online claim thing going to take AND if it rules in your favour he could drag it out for months before paying....

the odds of him either returning the phone to you in working order OR paying in full the day after any sort of judgement against him are very very slim.

he is a thief and he is happily using your phone. if a thief stole your car and you had the chance to at least take the keys off him would you not do that?

fuzzgun19

I have just blocked this Ar*eh*le on my ebay incase he bid on my items

ashy_mashy

well here's how I see it, I am using the online claim to ask for payment for the phone, if I block the phone then in the court he will say the phone does not work since its barred and I will say yes I barred it a few days ago since he did not pay for it, then they will say since it was his phone, even if he hasn't paid for it, I did not have the right to barr is and because if the buyer pays the money then he won't have a phone!coz its barred.

The example of the car and the keys that you've given is a thief stealing it, and you taking the car keys is different since you can hand over the car keys once he's paid but I can't unbarr the phone once he has paid, I will have to get a new one. It would be like destroying the car rather than taking the keys away and asking the insurance company to give you a new car which will have alot of paperwork and will have a negative effect on your record.

pug_in_a_bed

See what you mean there, I guess you could say that you could have indeed blocked the phone but didn't as you still hoped the sale would go ahead in good faith. Frustrating though.

ashy_mashy

yes, that's a good point.
He has responded to my unpaid dispute.

http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/ebayISAPI.dll?ResolveDispute&DisputeId=78444632

and I sent about 4 responses to put him down.
What do I do now, do I click the close dispute button? will that get my final value fees back or will I have to wait untill the buyer pleads guilty and closes the dispute himself?

zappahey

ashy_mashy wrote:

yes, that's a good point.
He has responded to my unpaid dispute.

http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/ebayISAPI.dll?ResolveDispute&DisputeId=78444632

Only you can access that link, no point posting it for us

ashy_mashy

oh damn well here it is his response:
princesshoney69 29-Dec-05 at 18:50:38 GMT


there has been problems with my paypal account, i have tried contacting the seller numerous times
however he says he will not speak to me!! the phone is now faulty, i have paid via paypal, and i am
disputing the transaction

fuzzgun19

ashy_mashy wrote:

yes, that's a good point.
He has responded to my unpaid dispute.

http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/ebayISAPI.dll?ResolveDispute&DisputeId=78444632

and I sent about 4 responses to put him down.
What do I do now, do I click the close dispute button? will that get my final value fees back or will I have to wait untill the buyer pleads guilty and closes the dispute himself?

I believe you can close the dispute, just click that you no longer wish to communicate with the buyer.

ashy_mashy

and my responseS!:

ashy_mashy 29-Dec-05 at 21:48:23 GMT


Below is proof that the transaction was reversed,once item was sent,I have all e-mails,text messages
and online conversations with the buyer even saying there was a bank problem.The phone was brand new
with warrenty I have contract proof.
eBay Payment Received (ID Number 1DJ100099Y140881N)

This
transaction has been reversed.
For further details please see transaction 0WF853912M5599301

Total
Amount:
£223.00 GBP
Date:
4 Dec. 2005
Time:
23:00:08 GMT
Status:
Reversed

ashy_mashy 29-Dec-05 at 22:01:38 GMT


I contacted the buyer many times however everytime he made a new excuse why he has to delay the payment
,and did not mention any problems with the phone until I took action since there is no problem with
the phone.The phone came with 1 full years warrenty which would cover any problems, my listing also
said no returns. I have made my claim and if the buyer does not plead guilty he will have to pay all
extra charges which could be enormous, I have enough proof to make this an open and shut case.

ashy_mashy 29-Dec-05 at 22:08:39 GMT


You can also see from the buyers history that he buys and sells phone after he has used them, I have
proof of him saying that he uses the phones and sells them off after a month since he just likes to
try them and can't find a good one. In this case he has used the phone and now instead of selling it
for slightly cheaper he thinks he can send it back having used it for almost a month.

ashy_mashy 29-Dec-05 at 22:13:05 GMT


After I found out about the payment reversal I tried to contact the buyer but no answer until I left
bad feedback, he claimed he needs to sell his LG phone on ebay and he won't be able to with the
negative feedback that I left so I withdrew it, he sold his LG phone and now he still hasn't paid.Again
,I have proof of him saying all of this. Since I could no longer leave neg feedback he thought nothing
will happen if he doesn't pay, he is trying to take advantage knowing that this is my first sale.

ashy_mashy 29-Dec-05 at 22:25:38 GMT


The phone was sold on the 4th December, and since the buyer did not pay for more than 20 days, following
many attempts to contact him and his many excuses for delayed payment such as family problems, I was
forced to give him 24 hours to make the payment during which time i cut contact with him since he was
only going to make more excuse and would not pay.After 24 hours, he still had not paid thus I was
forced to make a legal claim against him.

ashy_mashy 29-Dec-05 at 22:28:00 GMT


The buyer has made a big mistake by refusing to pay, since he will now have to pay extra charges.

ashy_mashy

and just added this one:

ashy_mashy 29-Dec-05 at 22:35:01 GMT


The way this buyer tricked me into removing the feedback was saying that he worked for the bank and
that his partner worked at the courts and that they are both trust worthy people. I have this
conversation recorded on my phone which will work against them if any of it is untrue.