Parking Ticket Appeals discussion

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dogsbody321 wrote: »

I did appeal, but now the letter states that I must pay up as my appeal has been rejected.

Also, the name of the road on the ticket was wrong. Not sure if that's worth mentioning.

I am not sure if this has been answered, because I haven't gone through the whole list yet !

Anyway, if the ticket says you parked in High Road, when you were parked in High Street then the ticket is wrong. It is not valid because you were not where the ticket says you were.

Some years ago I parked on a road down the side of a supermarket. At the time the road had no name. However, the warden put the name of the main road that the road came off of. I appealed and won.

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anewman wrote: »

Remember that parking tickets issued by private companies are largely unenforceable, so the best approach is to ignore them. Do not, however, ignore council or police issued ones and the like.

The private companies will threaten court action and bailiffs, but it ain't going to happen. Just like if you send in an appeal with that cheque for the amount of the fine, your appeal is going to be rejected and your cheque cashed.

Do not give money to these cowboys.

Is that a fact about private car parks ?

I recently had to take my mother for a hospital appointment. I parked in a bay (didn't notice a sign in the bay saying it was reserved for specific users), and put up her blue badge.

When I got back there was a nice little photo of my car in the bay with a penalty notice.

I initially appealed to the parking company, who told me that it had been rejected. I then wrote to my mother's doctor, the Chief Executive of the hospital and the local newspaper. Eventually (thanks to the Chief Ex.) the fine was refunded.

However, if I didn't go through all that and ignored the fine, would I really have got away with it ?

peter_the_piper

I-LOV-MONEY wrote: »

Is that a fact about private car parks ?

I recently had to take my mother for a hospital appointment. I parked in a bay (didn't notice a sign in the bay saying it was reserved for specific users), and put up her blue badge.

When I got back there was a nice little photo of my car in the bay with a penalty notice.

I initially appealed to the parking company, who told me that it had been rejected. I then wrote to my mother's doctor, the Chief Executive of the hospital and the local newspaper. Eventually (thanks to the Chief Ex.) the fine was refunded.
However, if I didn't go through all that and ignored the fine, would I really have got away with it ?

I think you only got off because you made a very big fuss in the right quarters, most would just appeal to the PPC which would almost always fail. Generally appealing is seen by them an admission of the fact that you were the driver and so you would get more scrap paper than you would have had the invoice been ignored. The average person only wants an easy life and because the PPC have sent them a """fine""" then they must be in the wrong and so pay up.

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peter_the_piper wrote: »

I think you only got off because you made a very big fuss in the right quarters, most would just appeal to the PPC which would almost always fail. Generally appealing is seen by them an admission of the fact that you were the driver and so you would get more scrap paper than you would have had the invoice been ignored. The average person only wants an easy life and because the PPC have sent them a """fine""" then they must be in the wrong and so pay up.

What I want to know is had I ignored it, could they send the bailiffs round, or take out a court order ? The note normally refers to contacting DVLA for details. Is it just a "frightener" ?

Roycall42

In certain parts of Westminster the signs are not clear enough, they overlap...yet have no interest in correcting this, so people like me who were not aware contest it and get bigger fines at the end of it all !!

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Roycall42 wrote: »

In certain parts of Westminster the signs are not clear enough, they overlap...yet have no interest in correcting this, so people like me who were not aware contest it and get bigger fines at the end of it all !!

If the signs are not of the correct size / shape or in a wrong position then surely your appeal must win.

peter_the_piper

I-LOV-MONEY wrote: »

What I want to know is had I ignored it, could they send the bailiffs round, or take out a court order ? The note normally refers to contacting DVLA for details. Is it just a "frightener" ?

They can't send the bailiffs around, only a court can do this assuming the very, very slim chance they take you to court--they win(even slimmer) and you do not pay the court. They can't take out a court order, its only a frightener. They will ask dvla for the registered keepers name, costs them £2.50, then they will send up to 6 letters, each more threatening than the other, often in pretty colours as they think it looks more official, these you can safely ignore. They might get their tame debt collectors to write, just another pile of letterheading on the same desk, to which you could reply that you dispute the alledged debt as it with the driver so contact them and don't harass me further, you are not under any obligation to say who the driver is. Invoice them for £100.00 for any further letter if you want, you won't get anything as its got as much legality as their invoices. Sometimes you even get a (so called) solicitors letter which are also another staff member. They usually give up after this. Don't throw anything away but don't reply to them or contact them.

NJW69

On Thursday and Friday of this week I was in Milton Keynes for work. On the Thursday evening we moved to the Jurys Hotel (Midsummer Boulevard) where we were staying overnight and where the meeting was being held on the Friday. The hotel provided a parking permit for £1.20 that had to be displayed and enabled you to park in council car parks opposite the hotel. Parking was free after 6pm and before 7am so the permit was for the Friday as I arrived after 6pm. There were two kinds of parking: premium and standard and the permit was for standard. These were distinguished by either a red line (premium) or purple line (standard). It was dark when I parked and these lines were not visible. I looked for signs and there was one that said clearly standard Area C2 on a walkway on the bay next to the one I was parked in so I thought this was okay.

At the end of the meeting on Friday I went out to my car to find a PCN saying I was not displaying a valid ticket and there is a £40 charge reduced to £20 if I pay within 14 days.

In daylight the colours of the lines are visible and I 'was' parked in a red bay. The sign should therefore say that any bays past this sign are in a standard area i.e. past this point. If you were in the standard area you wouldn't see the signage only the reverse of it which is blank. When in the area with purple lines that I should have parked in the only sign you can see says premium which is why I didn't park there.

I am going to appeal but haven't taken any photos as I don't have a camera phone and live 200 miles away. I don't hold out much hope. Surely the sign should be visible in the area to which it applies not for the one you are entering past that point

sarahg1969

No doubt the appeal will involve paying up front, then being told your appeal has been unsuccessful. Do you really believe there is an appeals procedure?

campfreddy

nicola.williams wrote: »

There were two kinds of parking: premium and standard and the permit was for standard. These were distinguished by either a red line (premium) or purple line (standard).

I would argue to them that you are colour blind. To use two colours that are so similar (instead of say red lines and yellow lines which would be easy to tell apart in the dark) is crazy and a large portion of people would have trouble seeing the difference in daylight, let alone night time.

Then you could argue that there is insufficient signage to accompany the lines of a similar hue.

Purple and red seems a very odd choice unless they want to catch people out.

Talk to the local paper and the hotel as well about this.