Should I pay..Civil Enforcement Ltd?

tinpanalley

Received another colourful letter from Newlyn today, still looking for £240 and I have once again filed it under B for bin.

B4ts

Hi to All !

Having just got my first Fine notice from Civil Enforcement Limited I did a web search and found this forum which I have obviously joined

Without searching for the definitive answer I would like to post my own comments which probably echo those already known.

In my case it was a relative from abroad who entered a car park at Mirfield West Yorks at 1846 hrs and returned at 2056 hrs overstaying the 2 hours limit. As registered keeper I get the fine notice. I will completely ignore this as the following applies. It is the driver who enters into a contract with the car park monitoring company and not always the registered keeper. You do this by reading the notices displayed. The car park company does have a right to ask you who the driver was but you are under no statutory obligation to answer such a request (it is different with Police and most local authority requests) So IF it ever came to a Court hearing, in my case I did not enter into any kind of contract as I was not the driver. The Court could ask me to name the driver and I would be under an obligation to do so. I would suggest that if that ever developed then the driver ought to be given the opportunity to discharge their liabilities to any fine at the initial rate. However, as the whole ethos of this companies behaviour is totally questionable, and as other have stated they stand to lose out on their shady operation by opening a "Pandora's box in court" they are almost certainly never likely to go down that avenue.

Oopsadaisy

Er....and your point is????

stuartshepherd

I received 2 notices of parking infringement for parking at Severn Park in Bridgnorth 2 weeks ago.
We were at a rowing regatta and we absolutely know we paid for all day parking yet these notices have now been sent.
I contacted Bridgnorth council about this and they say it has nothing to do with them yet it is a public park !
Anyway, these are from the Civil Enforcement company and reading through this forum I am going to completely ignore them both. My wife will not be pleased as she hates anything like this happening but we know we were okay on the parking.

Coupon-mad

You will be fine - since this is not a 'fine'!

Your wife will need to endure seeing and just ignoring the debt collector & 'let's pretend we are solicitors' threatograms though - see top thread 'PPC letters, what to expect'.

And also show her the Watchdog clip linked on 'welcome, please read before posting'.

The 2 things together are enough to convince anyone that these fake PCNs are all just a scam.

jowski1971

I too received a 'fine' from Civil Enforcement Ltd for Severn park in Bridgnorth. I am certain we paid for parking as well. There is a newspaper article in the Bridgnorth Journal last week saying to send the 'fines' to the council as there 'issues' with the parking set up. I will be ringing them first thing Monday morning as I got my 'fine' at 5.00 p.m. on Friday!

trisontana

jowski1971 wrote: »

I too received a 'fine' from Civil Enforcement Ltd for Severn park in Bridgnorth. I am certain we paid for parking as well. There is a newspaper article in the Bridgnorth Journal last week saying to send the 'fines' to the council as there 'issues' with the parking set up. I will be ringing them first thing Monday morning as I got my 'fine' at 5.00 p.m. on Friday!

Are you saying that CE are running the car-park on behalf of the council?

vax2002

Fortunately the metric martyrs case cleared up who can charge "penalties" and NO private company can enforce any penalty on behalf of anyone else, it has to be issued under devolved powers of statutory instrument buy a direct employee of the authority.
In other words, an enforcement officer employed by a local authority, not some tin pot private company.

Hadeon

jowski1971 wrote: »

I too received a 'fine' from Civil Enforcement Ltd for Severn park in Bridgnorth. I am certain we paid for parking as well. There is a newspaper article in the Bridgnorth Journal last week saying to send the 'fines' to the council as there 'issues' with the parking set up. I will be ringing them first thing Monday morning as I got my 'fine' at 5.00 p.m. on Friday!

This just cannot be correct.
Anyone got a link to this article?

esmerobbo

Found this!

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Faulty meter now that's a new one for a PPC!