TV licence letter (uhoh)

neil9313

bella2121 wrote: »

i'm not getting out of my depth, in extreme circumstances a warrant will be issued

Really, so how many a year do you think they issue then? :rolleyes:

pebbles8181

Neil....have u worked for TV licensing?

stugib

pebbles8181 wrote: »

I, aswell as bella 2121 have worked for tvl.....

What a happy coincidence you discovered MSE and this thread on your first day! You even have repeating numeric last 4 digits in your usernames! The coincidences keep coming!

bella2121 wrote:

why is that patronising? i think someone who pays for a licence for something they dont even have is just stupid!

I couldn't make that up as a response to prove my point! :rolleyes:

neil9313

pebbles8181 wrote: »

At the end of the day....if you have a tv that recieves tv channels...wether they are english or foreign, you have to have a licence....wether you like it or not!!! its the law...not some rule made up by capita or tv licensing....its agains the law not to have one!!
And, those who may have not been visited by an enforcement officer (yet) dusnt mean you never will!!
You can say the letters are worded harsh or threatening....but its only so people will realise the seriousness of what they're doing - BREAKING THE LAW!
And...if you say you've no TV....then you won't mind letting the officers in to confirm this....then there'll be no more harrassment!! simple!!
I, aswell as bella 2121 have worked for tvl.....and have been abused on the phones by people who only ring for a moan....get over it!!
If u dont wanna pay for a licence, then dont....but you will eventually get visited......and may go to court.....and believe me there are thousands and thousands of people that DO go to court each week and DO get fined....!!
Oh, and neil.....search warrants do get granted quite often.....and if they end up in court....the people are fined alot more money!!!!!

again, wrong info im afraid, you only need to google tv licence and see what a load of stuff is made up and untrue!

neil9313

pebbles8181 wrote: »

Neil....have u worked for TV licensing?

No, however I seem to know more than you,try google, mind you maybe you are a mole/plant on here :rolleyes: for Capita?

pebbles8181

how is that untrue? please enlighten me!
I obviously do not know what im talking about like the rest of you!!!

weegie.geek

Schwade wrote: »

FYI, I know a friend that pays the licence even though she has no aerial.

I keep telling her that she doesn't need a licence and she should spend the £130 each year on a holiday but she thinks she needs one because the letters implies if you have a TV, you need a licence. She also thinks it is better to pay than receive all these scary letters and the possibility of some guy knocking on her door and coming into her place.

bella2121 wrote: »

well i'm not being funny but if she wants to waste her money then thats up to her but i just think its ridiculous and she needs to get a grip

http://www.bbctvlicence.com/index.htm

Looking at the letters they send out, I'm not surprised some people cave and buy a licence.

You have to ask yourself why, when freeview, digital cable and digital satellite were introduced, they didn't make everything conditional access, so unless you had a license and an active card, you plain couldn't watch broadcast TV.

It was the perfect opportunity to ensure that only those who paid the license were ABLE to watch TV. Sure, there'd have been some outlay to setup the infrastructure but it'd have paid for itself in no time, with the increased amount of subscriptions from the people who SHOULD have a license but don't pay, and the decommissioning of the TVLA.

The answer's obvious, of course, in that they then wouldn't be able to bully the gullible into buying licenses they've no need for.

I had an argument with one of these "if you have a TV you need a license, fact!" fools the other day. Even though there's plenty of concrete evidence that this is not the case, people continue to buy into the myth, and argue with people who've actually done the research. (all 5 minutes of it! It's not as if the truth is buried very deep...)

I don't see how Bella can, with a clear conscience, defend the TVLA. They're an awful organisation who employ extremely underhanded tactics.

Guilty until proven innocent?
Threats of legal action when you've not done anything wrong?
Knocking on your door in an attempt to embarrass you into buying a license?
The downright lie that is the "tv detector van"?

That last one alone should have been enough to get this mob disbanded, but the naive and gullible buy into their lies and pay up.

I'm sure us people without TVs are in the minority, and the group of people who DO own TVs but only use them for their Wii or watching dvds on are an even smaller group, but they exist, and for the TVLA to automatically assume that I'm a criminal is insulting, and let's be honest, what other organisation would get away with it?

Like superscaper said, the DVLA will only hassle you once a year, and that's more a reminder than anything else.

neil9313

pebbles8181 wrote: »

how is that untrue? please enlighten me!
I obviously do not know what im talking about like the rest of you!!!

I guess you are not very well informed, try google on "tv licence" and read some factual stuff, now if you knocked on doors rather than the call centre I think you would know a lot more

neil9313

weegie.geek wrote: »

http://www.bbctvlicence.com/index.htm

Looking at the letters they send out, I'm not surprised some people cave and buy a licence.

You have to ask yourself why, when freeview, digital cable and digital satellite were introduced, they didn't make everything conditional access, so unless you had a license and an active card, you plain couldn't watch broadcast TV.

It was the perfect opportunity to ensure that only those who paid the license were ABLE to watch TV. Sure, there'd have been some outlay to setup the infrastructure but it'd have paid for itself in no time, with the increased amount of subscriptions from the people who SHOULD have a license but don't pay, and the decommissioning of the TVLA.

The answer's obvious, of course, in that they then wouldn't be able to bully the gullible into buying licenses they've no need for.

I had an argument with one of these "if you have a TV you need a license, fact!" fools the other day. Even though there's plenty of concrete evidence that this is not the case, people continue to buy into the myth, and argue with people who've actually done the research. (all 5 minutes of it! It's not as if the truth is buried very deep...)

I don't see how Bella can, with a clear conscience, defend the TVLA. They're an awful organisation who employ extremely underhanded tactics.

Guilty until proven innocent?
Threats of legal action when you've not done anything wrong?
Knocking on your door in an attempt to embarrass you into buying a license?
The downright lie that is the "tv detector van"?

That last one alone should have been enough to get this mob disbanded, but the naive and gullible buy into their lies and pay up.

I'm sure us people without TVs are in the minority, and the group of people who DO own TVs but only use them for their Wii or watching dvds on are an even smaller group, but they exist, and for the TVLA to automatically assume that I'm a criminal is insulting, and let's be honest, what other organisation would get away with it?

Like superscaper said, the DVLA will only hassle you once a year, and that's more a reminder than anything else.

Take note bella, this poster knows what they are talking about, under the FOI act guess how many people were actually fined by the court using detector vans/hand held equipment as the key evidence last year Bella? I will give you a thousand either way? :cool:

cajef

pebbles8181 wrote: »

At the end of the day....if you have a tv that recieves tv channels...wether they are english or foreign, you have to have a licence....wether you like it or not!!! its the law

For someone that claims to have worked for TVL that is completely incorrect.

You can have as many TV's as you wish but only need a licence if you watch live broadcasts, get your facts right before making such statements.