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Advice urgently needed - old thread, new topic!

screamer
screamer Posts: 1,104 Forumite
edited 17 May 2010 at 2:21PM in Pets & pet care
We moved into this house in December. I fell in love with the next door neighbour's cat. She's a long haired tortie and she's absolutely adorable. She comes onto my garden and says hi to my dog which I find extremely cute but after talking to the neighbours it seems as if they've replaced the cat with a dog. They already have an old dog but now they have a puppy. The hound is absolutely nuts and since they've got the dog they lock the cat out. (Boxing day. And yes she has been locked out in the snow :-( )

Currently, it's throwing it down with rain and the poor thing is locked out. She's filthy, her coat is matted and smelly and from what I've just seen, she's starving as well as wet through (I gave her some chicken and she bit my fingers so have put it in a tray for her). There is no shelter on their garden so I've just made a makeshift bed for her on the garden. I can't let her in for obvious reasons(not my cat, I have a dog) but I can't bear to see her in this state anymore!!! Yes, it is 2am in the morning, all their lights are off and they're quiet which means they're in bed so she's out for the night now. I spoke to them a couple of weeks ago and the puppy is so crazy, the owners are worried about what will happen with the cat and dog while they're in bed.

What can I do? Our vendors have told us that they've got rid of animals before because of noise (I assume a loud dog. Our vendors live slap bang opposite and I talk to them whenever I see them) but I'm afraid that if I called the RSPCA that I'll be blamed therefore causing hassle which we don't need right now or that the poor cat is going to get seriously hurt, or ill.

I know cats find somewhere safe when they're locked out but this cat is 6 years old and has always been a house cat. I won't post pictures of her but she's all skin and bone (like their puppy which is sickening. He scavenged baked beans off their yard earlier which their son threw away)

What shall I do? I love this cat and wish I could take her in. OH isn't keen but then again if he was to agree, how would I broach the subject to the neighbours? I can't bear to see her like this anymore. Her bed right now is a canvas drawer with 2 old curtains in it with our "for sale" sign covering it which I haven't got round to throwing away yet. It's propped up with the leftovers from the picket fence I erected.

It's killing me. How can pet owners treat their animals like that?? Please help, I'm too nice to let this go on for much longer. (OH says I'm soft. Yeah I'm soft with a particularly soft spot for cats!) Have wanted to ask you all about her before but didn't have the guts. Now I'm too disgraced to NOT ask for advice!!

Poor little thing. I feel so sorry for her!!
Yaaay, I finally conned a man into making a honest woman of me. Even more shocking is that I can put the words "Happily" and "Married" into the same sentence and not have life insurance on my mind when I say it ;-)
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  • jackieglasgow
    jackieglasgow Posts: 9,436 Forumite
    Can you not speak to them and say that the cat keeps coming in to see you, and as they are worried about it being in on it's own with the dog, you wouldn't mind letting it sleep in your house overnight as you feel sorry for it out in the rain? Without it sounding accusatory, just like you are a sucker for a sob story? They might then say you are welcome to the cat, or simply agree, and over time it would insinuate itself into your household without it becoming a big issue. It sounds to me as if they've already washe their hands of it, and might be gla for you to take it on. As for the puppy, keep an eye, if it seems neglected too then call the RSPCA, they don't need a name for a report.
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  • mrcol1000
    mrcol1000 Posts: 4,795 Forumite
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    screamer wrote: »
    What can I do? Our vendors have told us that they've got rid of animals before because of noise (I assume a loud dog. Our vendors live slap bang opposite and I talk to them whenever I see them) but I'm afraid that if I called the RSPCA that I'll be blamed therefore causing hassle which we don't need right now or that the poor cat is going to get seriously hurt, or ill.


    Just report it the RSPCA as the only alternative is to steal the animals which we would lead to you potentially prosecuted. If you take it to a rescue they will scan them and if chipped return them to the owners. So your only alternative is to either watch them suffer or report them to the RSCPA. You could try the Dog Warden but they may just tell you to contact RSCPA. If the animals are as bad as you make out then the RSCPA should take fast action.
  • paddypaws101
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    I think you just got your self a cat!
    I agree with jackieglasgow above, and by the time OH notices it will be a done deal.
  • I would take the cat in, by the sounds of it your neighbour wont care but will probably be pleased.
  • The OP has a dog as well - if he isnt cat friendly taking the cat in may not be a possibility - if you are sure the cat is neglected, ie. cn you be sure he hasnt always been out overnight cos he prefers it, is not thin behcause of age or an underlying health issue etc... just mentioning this 'cos things are not all they seem sometimes - my friend had a cat who looked very mistreated - it was actually a foster from the CPL, and was healthier and happier than it had been in years!

    However, if you are sure that the cat is neglected (and perhaps the dogs too from what you say) then do call the RSPCA. If they refuse to act, which they may do if you say you are feeding the cat (I had this once, they wouldn't go and see a dog abandoned in a pen in a back garden after the owners had moved out, because it was being fed and watered.. by me - but only because I was concerned, as the owners had left and made no provision for it) - then you may have to do something else. (I did, the dog in the pen was 'liberated' and lived here for the next ten years!)
  • MzFitz
    MzFitz Posts: 80 Forumite
    I've called theRSPCA once before - my office overlooked a row of gardens, heard yelping and saw a young lad hitting an alsation with a hammer on the head. It had gone on for about half an hour before I could figure out where the noise was coming from. Wasn't brave enough to go and create merry hell on my own back then (would now!) - RSPCA went there and had a chat with the Mum (who was at home with the kid - go figure) - and called me to let me know their findings later that day. It's not like they went from their door to mine, therefore giving away the complainee, as it were.
    Go on, you'll feel better for it, and they will have better advice.
  • lowis
    lowis Posts: 1,952 Forumite
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    my friend had the exact same situation - she eventually just asked her neighbour if she could have the cat - and the neoghbour agreed. your neighbour is obviously finding the cat bothersome so may well be glad of the offer. just make sure your dog is OK with a cat in the house before you do this.

    alternatively if the neighbour disagrees with the offer then try and find someone who will take the cat in, then at some point in the future just take the cat and rehome it with this new person.
  • screamer
    screamer Posts: 1,104 Forumite
    Thank you all for this. I will comment on each post, but before I do I have just remember something that happened just after Christmas which made me want to go round there and knock their heads off.

    Kitty was wandering round the garden and people were throwing snowballs at each other. A man (now know as A***hole and is also the neighbours boyfriend) made a huge snowball and threw it at the cat. She darted over the yard onto a fence. I then witnessed the bboyfriend pick up a large picket fence panel and launched it at the cat. It missed thankfully but the poor thing was lucky. The bloke then turned to see me watching and waved. He saw me shaking my head in disgust and then pointed to me so all his mates started laughing at me. Not a good way to start with me. He still doesn't talk to me now but I didn't tell the neighbour what he'd done. I'm still disgusted in the man.

    Ok, will reply to your posts. My pooch is cat friendly. I had a cat until she died last year. Poochie is now 3 years old and knows how to treat them. When off his lead he doesn't chase the neighbourhood cats, just watches them.

    Jackie, I would love to have her in overnight but I'm not sure how I'd go about this. Poochie stays downstairs and is locked out of the living room. He has the hallway and the kitchen so has plenty of space. No doubt the cat wouldn't be happy with that and would come upstairs. I suppose leaving the spare bedroom door open would solve that problem, it's what we did with our cat, but OH couldn't argue with me back then because I had her when we met. I don't want poochie to think kitty is getting special treatment. My dog comes first. The hard part would be asking the neighbours if it was ok but then again I doubt they'd notice as they're in bed when I go to bed (late sleeper)

    Mrcol, you've just given me the answer I didn't want to hear, but it was also the sole reason I started a thread. You're right, and I don't for a minute think it would take the RSPCA long to find her a home. She's absolutely gorgeous, dog, cat and child friendly. I guess I'd feel better if she had a good home. Maybe it's a good idea to do as both you and Jackie have suggested, jackie first of course.

    Paddy, I love your optimism. I guess it could be as easy as that. OH doesn't really like cats but he'll be the first to admit that it's the old cat that put him off. She was very withdrawn and before she died she was very nasty and unpleasant. This cat is different. When we met he didn't like dogs but he adores our poochie. (who wouldn't, see "pictures of your animals" thread, there's a pic of him on there)

    Panda, thank you for commenting. I'll see if she's out again tonight and keep that bed nice and warm for her. If she is, then I shall do as both you and Jackie have said. I don't want to jump in with both feet and get burned :-)

    Onto FC, who's posts I read with interest and often agree with. You are a very well respected member of this forum and I'm glad you commented. The cat is most definately neglected. Her food consists of a few biscuits thrown on top of the little shed they house their tumble dryer in. When we first moved in her coat was fantastically soft with no dirt or mats. At first she was in overnight but in the owners words, since they got the puppy she can't be kept inside at all because she doesn't know what will happen. I'd be more worried about the puppy getting hurt as I know cats know how to stand up for themselves but at the same time, this pup really is bonkers and growling and barking can often be heard when both of the dogs are on the garden. The puppy jumps all over the old dog but the old dog doesn't like it. He tries to put the puppy off and often snaps or bites at him to warn him. You can tell the old dog isn't happy with the puppy. There is absoutely no doubt in my mind that the cat is neglected. The puppy's ribs are showing too clearly but that may be because he burns off more energy than he's getting into him. Like all young dogs they're very active. I will keep an eye on the puppy. (a couple of weeks ago they had friends round, and they all took it in turn to cover him with felt pen spots. They still haven't come off. I expect this behaviour from kids, not adults. Puppy is white btw). One thing I must point out is that I am a sucker for a sob story. I stole the cat who died from an ex boyfriend. He left her out all day and night, didn't feed her and I snapped when I went to see her one day and she was all skin and bone and had lost half of her fur. I couldn't hack it and he kicked up a bit of a fuss but left her with me. It's a long story but back then she had a choice on who to live with and she chose me!

    Crikey, this is a long post!! MzFitz, thank you for your comment about your experience. Has given me even more to think about. Would I be happier letting her go to RSPCA or would I be pleased if she stayed with us? I watch Animal planet a lot and wish we were in America, the ASPCA know how to deal with owners, they have guns :-)

    Onto lowis, I think I'll wait for OH to get back from work and ask him to support me. I needed your advice and I'm pleased you've all responded. Just goes to show we are a nation of animal lovers!!

    Will keep you updated.

    I wish I could thank you all more than once :-)
    Yaaay, I finally conned a man into making a honest woman of me. Even more shocking is that I can put the words "Happily" and "Married" into the same sentence and not have life insurance on my mind when I say it ;-)
  • Fire_Fox
    Fire_Fox Posts: 26,026 Forumite
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    edited 25 March 2010 at 2:13PM
    screamer wrote: »
    The hound is absolutely nuts and since they've got the dog they lock the cat out. (Boxing day. And yes she has been locked out in the snow :-( )

    Currently, it's throwing it down with rain and the poor thing is locked out. She's filthy, her coat is matted and smelly and from what I've just seen, she's starving as well as wet through (I gave her some chicken and she bit my fingers so have put it in a tray for her). There is no shelter on their garden so I've just made a makeshift bed for her on the garden. I can't let her in for obvious reasons(not my cat, I have a dog) but I can't bear to see her in this state anymore!!!

    I'm afraid that if I called the RSPCA that I'll be blamed therefore causing hassle which we don't need right now or that the poor cat is going to get seriously hurt, or ill.

    I know cats find somewhere safe when they're locked out but this cat is 6 years old and has always been a house cat. I won't post pictures of her but she's all skin and bone (like their puppy which is sickening. He scavenged baked beans off their yard earlier which their son threw away)

    Either call the RSPCA immediately, and keep calling them if there is no action taken, or box up the cat and take it to a far away rescue and say it is a stray. The cat already is ill if it is skin and bone, being underweight is just as harmful to health as being overweight. Not providing the cat with adequate shelter or food is illegal under the 'five freedoms'. If you post on Purrsinouthearts forums there are loads of rescues who may be able to help you find somewhere to take this cat. As you are in West Yorkshire you may wish to contact Jen from the Wharfe Valley Cats Protection who posts over on Purrs.
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  • I would either take the cat in or take it to the nearest shelter and say it is a stray, I doubt they have microchipped her.

    Your neighbour doesn't deserve pets:-(
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