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LINKSYS PAP2-NA UNLOCKED. How to access control panel?

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  • BritBrat
    BritBrat Posts: 3,764 Forumite
    Can't help you at the moment, still waiting on a replacement but at least your unit seems to be booting.

    Dont you get any message after dialing **** ?
    I can access the pap2 menu via my browser but now Im stuffed, any ideas?

    At least you got further than I did, can you find the device IP?

    Take a look through this link, it may help.

    linksys.com - PAP2 Technical support
    I am using the same UK to UK adaptor so maybe thats wonky?

    Should be US to UK.

    I would try another RJ11 to RJ14 adaptor. << (edited from RJ45) I tried 3 in different forms even a cable that had RJ11 at both ends.

    US Plug to BT Socket Adapter w/Ring Capacitor £3.17
  • guerillasaver
    guerillasaver Posts: 355 Forumite
    Hey, I don't get any message after dialling ****, cheers for the reply anyway, I'll grab a new adaptor tomorrow, cheers for that link too. Im guessing that the one that I bought today is duff, it was cheap anyway. Maybe its wired incorrectly, any idea where to find a correct wiring diagram for it? I'd have a go at rewiring myself.

    Edit: it was a dodgy adaptor
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  • BritBrat
    BritBrat Posts: 3,764 Forumite
    I came across some technical stuff on the phone wiring:
    There are two ways of wiring a RJ11 to BT converter cable...
    Normally the centre two pins of the RJ11 go to the outer two
    (pins 2 & 5) of the BT end. The other one is where the outer
    two of the RJ11 go to pins 2 & 5... The incoming BT line is
    always on the outer 2 that are pins 2 & 5 on the BT socket
    which connect to pins 5 and 2 on the BT plug (note the
    switch...) See: www.wppltd.demon.co.uk at the bottom.
    As for what it's called, 'RJ' specifications apply to specific uses of specific
    types of connector, and are defined by the Universal Service Order Code. It
    might look like an RJ11 but it isn't an RJ11 unless it is wired as, and _USED_
    as specified in the RJ11 specification.

    RJ11 is used for single-line analogue telephone interfaces with the active paid
    on the centre two pins of a six position modular jack with four actual pins.

    RJ14 uses two pairs on a six-position module jack (four pins in the centre four
    positions, with pair one being the centre two, and pair two being outside pair one)

    If the telephone has been designed to work on non-UK lines, it probably does not
    need a separate ringing line, so all you need to connect to such telephones is
    the active pair. Polarity in 99.9% of cases does not matter.

    For a normal USOC RJ11 connection, the active pair is the centre pair. These
    need to be presented on the BT plug on pins 2 and 5.
    i.e.

    BT RJ
    2- -2
    X
    3- -3
    4- -4
    X
    5- -5

    and this is what most adapters do.

    However, if the phone has been designed for the UK market, it may require a ring
    wire. This is at position 4 on the BT plug (which, given the upside-down nature
    of things, is actually pin 3 in the socket (are you confused yet?)

    Another possibility is that the active pair is expected to be on pair two (RJ14
    two pair wiring). If you get no dialtone, then that is probably the case.

    Pin numbering, if you are holding a plug with pins uppermost about to insert it
    into a socket, is left to right, i.e. pin 1 on the left. Count positions rather
    than pins (so a four-wire BT plug has pins 2,3,4,5)

    If you get dialtone on your cable, then you have the correct wiring for the
    signal pair. However, the phone may not ring if the ring wire is not connected
    correctly. Rewiring the plug upside-down should cure that, but you'll need
    appropriate tooling.

    Another clue can sometimes be gained from looking at the socket at the telephone
    itself. How many pins are there in the socket? Where are they? If only two,
    then that is the active pair, and no separate ring will be required.
    In terms of the casing (but not necessarily the wiring)
    RJ9 is four pins in a four pin housing
    RJ11 is the centre four pins in a six pin housing
    RJ12 is six pins in a six pin housing.
  • guerillasaver
    guerillasaver Posts: 355 Forumite
    thanks very much for that, I did look but couldnt find anything. in the end I went to a shop and bought a rj11 - rj11 3 meter lead so now its working just fine so thanks again :)
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  • BritBrat
    BritBrat Posts: 3,764 Forumite
    YW, thats the way I am going to first try it.

    Less connections less error, or is that less to go wrong :)

    By the time I get mine I should be a expert.
  • kingmonkey
    kingmonkey Posts: 846 Forumite
    BexTech wrote: »
    ... or you can use an ADSL filter to do the same job (though if you are on cable broadband and never had ADSL over BT, you may never had any).

    OH MY! Thank you. Never knew about this niffty trick.
  • BexTech
    BexTech Posts: 4,772 Forumite
    thanks very much for that, I did look but couldnt find anything. in the end I went to a shop and bought a rj11 - rj11 3 meter lead so now its working just fine so thanks again :)

    Pleased to hear you have it working, sorry I couldn't help you earlier, have been away on holiday and only just in the last few minutes got back.
    It's PAC not PAC Code, it's MAC not MAC Code, it's PIN not PIN Number, it's ATM not ATM Machine, it's LCD not LCD Display, it's DVD not DVD disc... It's no one not noone, It's a lot not alot, It's got not gotten... Panini is the plural of panino - there is no S!!
    (OK my English isn't great, the sciences, maths & IT are my strong points!)
  • A couple of comments if I may regarding earlier postings.

    The person with the router light showing orange not green is because the connection is at 10Mbps as opposed to 100Mbps. This is perfectly normal.

    Secondly, accessing the PAP2 via a browser - try http://192.168.0.3 (the router will be .0.1 and the PC .0.2). This is for Netgear router but the principle should apply for others once you know the router address and how many bits of kit are on the network.
  • BritBrat
    BritBrat Posts: 3,764 Forumite
    Got a replacement OK and got it working.

    Some of the settings you mentioned in your PM don't exist in mine guess you may have another firmware version to me. (3.1.8)

    Just need to work out my dial plan now, made all the other changes the were available as per your PM.
  • BexTech
    BexTech Posts: 4,772 Forumite
    BritBrat wrote: »
    Got a replacement OK and got it working.

    Some of the settings you mentioned in your PM don't exist in mine guess you may have another firmware version to me. (3.1.8)

    Just need to work out my dial plan now, made all the other changes the were available as per your PM.

    My PAP2 is currently on: Firmware Version: 3.1.20(LS)

    I think there are a couple extra fields on the later Firmware.

    Though many are hidden until you go into the Admin Login and Advanced view.

    (Not counting the Vonage locked devices there are two version of the PAP2, the PAP2 and the PAP2T).
    It's PAC not PAC Code, it's MAC not MAC Code, it's PIN not PIN Number, it's ATM not ATM Machine, it's LCD not LCD Display, it's DVD not DVD disc... It's no one not noone, It's a lot not alot, It's got not gotten... Panini is the plural of panino - there is no S!!
    (OK my English isn't great, the sciences, maths & IT are my strong points!)
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