Line manager- when they won't speak to you.

studentphil

floss2 wrote: »

Why is it pointless? My student son got a temp job last summer with Leeds Crown Prosecution Service - the only office experience he had was 2 weeks work experience at school about 5 years ago! You have customer service experience, you have administrative experience, you have keyboard skills!

I'm sorry to be blunt, but you will never get anywhere with that attitude - you have to try & build on that experience...and if you are disabled, then maybe you are the right person for this role as you will have experiences that I would not that you can bring to the job, despite my 24 years of office experience.

My experience tells me from applying for jobs that without experience office jobs are unachieveable. I could be the right person but others won't think I am.

floss2

studentphil wrote: »

My experience tells me from applying for jobs that without experience office jobs are unachieveable.

But Phil, YOU HAVE GOT EXPERIENCE!!!!

However, if you are only applying for an average of 7 jobs a week, (based on 1 application every day), then you will find this!

When I was applying for jobs last year in an area with quite high unemployment & little industry, I applied for about 38 posts...I got 4 interviews....I was offered 1 job. That is a rate of 10% on applications to interviews, and 1% of applications to jobs offered....which is a fair average.

Stop posting & complaining and get completing applications!

studentphil

floss2 wrote: »

But Phil, YOU HAVE GOT EXPERIENCE!!!!

However, if you are only applying for an average of 7 jobs a week, (based on 1 application every day), then you will find this!

When I was applying for jobs last year in an area with quite high unemployment & little industry, I applied for about 38 posts...I got 4 interviews....I was offered 1 job. That is a rate of 10% on applications to interviews, and 1% of applications to jobs offered....which is a fair average.

Stop posting & complaining and get completing applications!

I will get on with it.

MrsTinks

studentphil wrote: »

My experience tells me from applying for jobs that without experience office jobs are unachieveable. I could be the right person but others won't think I am.

No - what your experience tells you is that the jobs you have applied to in the past didn't offer you the position. Not that this applies to all jobs.
I didn't have any transport co-ordinator experience yet I got a temp job doing this before starting my new perm job.
I had no tech experience when I got offered a tech job for HP many years ago. I had no team leader experience when I got promoted to team leader. I had no official proven experience in handling £500k a month accounts when I was offered the job I have now.
What I DID have was a "can do and can learn" attitude and the view that this is what I wanted to do so I need to convince them that I'm worth hiring.

I've hired people to work in a technical support environment who came from varied backgrounds including a waitress, a shop assistant, people straight out of school and even an accoutant wanna be... Why? Because they convinced me they had the willingness to do the job and learn the skills needed. I turned down people with years of experience because they didn't give me the impression that this is something they wanted to do, they never smiled at me, they had NO enthusiam and frankly I felt depressed after interviewing them for 10 minutes...

If you want a job then experience has nothing to do with it - attitude is everything. If you are convinced they won't hire you then they won't because you will come across as less than enthusiastic and frankly... would YOU hire you?

Get off ya butt and slap yourself a cross the face and realise that there is only ONE obstacle in the way of getting a job... your attitude

Good luck!

floss2

Good luck

studentphil

I am just useless at applying for jobs that is all.

When it says you need to be committed to customer service- what does it mean?

In my job I help customers because it is a customer facing place that exists for its customers and I go out of my way to help people and make sure they are happy.

tinkerbell84

Do you do it because the job requires you to, or do you personally want to help people?

They want people who want to help, not people who do it only because they have to (and would rather be online boring strangers with tales of woe).

lostinrates

studentphil wrote: »

I am just useless at applying for jobs that is all.

When it says you need to be committed to customer service- what does it mean?

In my job I help customers because it is a customer facing place that exists for its customers and I go out of my way to help people and make sure they are happy.

Well, I offered help..............:rolleyes:

Yes you got it, you have commitment to customer service, atta boy!

It occured to me, had you thought of working in a Court? Its quite fun (I love court) and safe, (as a clerk you don't get close to defendants) and its secure employment and its in public service. You have demonstrate a very strong sense of morality so you might enjoy being on the coalface of our justice system.

Thinking about it I'd love that job......

floss2

studentphil wrote: »

I am just useless at applying for jobs that is all.

No you are not. You just need more practice

When it says you need to be committed to customer service- what does it mean?

In my job I help customers because it is a customer facing place that exists for its customers and I go out of my way to help people and make sure they are happy.

Now develop that & think about an occasion when you personally have given "exceptional customer services" as you will inevitably have to give an example in your pile of applications....context of the event to your job, what was the needs, how you fulfilled it, was the customer satisfied, what you learnt from it ...... and write it down so you can remember & learn it

CFC

studentphil wrote: »

Simple fact is I hate writing and I hate writing job applications. I dislike the task and I find it hard.

Not being horrid, but ......HELLO???... everyone feels the same about job applications, you know. In the whole of my life I have never met anybody who thought they were easy and fun.

It's about time you left Self Pity City, population YOU.

A positive and cheerful attitude goes a long long way when jobhunting!