Line manager- when they won't speak to you.

studentphil

I hate the phrase line manager because the line is nothing more than a chart. But what can you do when your line manager won't speak to you. Okay, it is a bit sad on my part that they can't renew my contract and it was always made out it would be. But to avoid you because they think you might be upset seems daft.

Why are people so hard to deal with?

I could think I have been used to do all the overtime and do exta jobs because I thought it would get in a perm. job, but I really don't feel that way. As I do know that managers don't really care and they just use you up and throw you away when you are no longer needed.

dmg24

Phil,

You have raised a few issues here - why your contract has not been renewed, why your manager is not talking to you, and a possible problem that you have with authority?

With regard to your contract, have you asked for feedback?

With regard to your manager, there are lots of possibilities - maybe it is because they are avoiding you, or maybe they are just very busy?

You have an extremely negative view of management, which as you have only had one job, does seem unjustified. Yes, some managers don't care, just like some friends/ colleagues/ general people in life don't care. Do you think that you have contributed to your problem with this attitude?

studentphil

dmg24 wrote: »

Phil,

You have raised a few issues here - why your contract has not been renewed, why your manager is not talking to you, and a possible problem that you have with authority?

With regard to your contract, have you asked for feedback?

With regard to your manager, there are lots of possibilities - maybe it is because they are avoiding you, or maybe they are just very busy?

You have an extremely negative view of management, which as you have only had one job, does seem unjustified. Yes, some managers don't care, just like some friends/ colleagues/ general people in life don't care. Do you think that you have contributed to your problem with this attitude?

It is not renewed because the person I am covering for is coming back. I generally have no problem with managers as long as they are civil with me. If they really cared then they would reward all my hard work by trying to safeguard me by trying to get me another job. I have given all my life to my job and you might think that would get a reward.

dmg24

studentphil wrote: »

It is not renewed because the person I am covering for is coming back. I generally have no problem with managers as long as they are civil with me. If they really cared then they would reward all my hard work by trying to safeguard me by trying to get me another job. I have given all my life to my job and you might think that would get a reward.

Sorry hun, you need to get this into perspective.

You have given the past nine months(?) to this job, not all your life.

You got a reward in that you got paid, what more did you expect?

TBH had you been in the job twenty years, your comments may be justified, but you have been on a short term contract, really no big thing in the grand scheme of things.

With regard to your feelings towards managers, you need to look back to your first post. They are some pretty strong feelings!

DKLS

studentphil wrote: »

It is not renewed because the person I am covering for is coming back. I generally have no problem with managers as long as they are civil with me. If they really cared then they would reward all my hard work by trying to safeguard me by trying to get me another job. I have given all my life to my job and you might think that would get a reward.

Bit dramatic all that Phil, Move on, the world of work isnt full of care bears!
Register with as many agencies as you can and in person, dont just email your CV. If you like the cushy atmosphere of the academic world, there are plenty of vacancies across the 2 sites, also try the local council, you would fit in well there.

studentphil

dmg24 wrote: »

Sorry hun, you need to get this into perspective.

You have given the past nine months(?) to this job, not all your life.

You got a reward in that you got paid, what more did you expect?

TBH had you been in the job twenty years, your comments may be justified, but you have been on a short term contract, really no big thing in the grand scheme of things.

With regard to your feelings towards managers, you need to look back to your first post. They are some pretty strong feelings!

I know to you it might only be a tin pot job but to me it is my whole life and I won't have anything when it finishes. All my hopes and dreams of having a longer term career there are over.

I take it I am paid and I know I couldn't really expect any longer than I have had, but still all those hopes and dreams lost.

dmg24

studentphil wrote: »

I know to you it might only be a tin pot job but to me it is my whole life and I won't have anything when it finishes. All my hopes and dreams of having a longer term career there are over.

I take it I am paid and I know I couldn't really expect any longer than I have had, but still all those hopes and dreams lost.

This is the point I am making Phil - get some perspective!

A job is a means of income, and if it brings some added value to your life, fantastic. If all that you have in your life is your job, then you really need to review your life as a whole.

studentphil

dmg24 wrote: »

This is the point I am making Phil - get some perspective!

A job is a means of income, and if it brings some added value to your life, fantastic. If all that you have in your life is your job, then you really need to review your life as a whole.

Okay, it is just to me that a job is social to me and you meet people and know people through it and it gets me out and about and doing things and improving myself.

I try not to take it too seriously but just now it feels very important.

dmg24

studentphil wrote: »

Okay, it is just to me that a job is social to me and you meet people and know people through it and it gets me out and about and doing things and improving myself.

I try not to take it too seriously but just now it feels very important.

So find other ways to get out to meet people.

How about joining the gym (yes, many gyms are adaptable and accessible to practically all people now), or joining a book club?

What about the people that you met at your job - could you meet them for a drink?

There are endless ways to improve yourself that do not need an employer to instigate them. Be proactive.

floss2

studentphil wrote: »

I know to you it might only be a tin pot job but to me it is my whole life and I won't have anything when it finishes. All my hopes and dreams of having a longer term career there are over.

I take it I am paid and I know I couldn't really expect any longer than I have had, but still all those hopes and dreams lost.

I'm sorry, but to have this attitude over the imminent end of a short-term contract - which you knew was a short-term contract when you took it - may explain why they have not gone out of their way to find you something else.

Have you been proactive & asked if there may be any other opportunities with this organisation? Have you applied for any internal vacancies in your nine months? Have you spoken to your line manager & made them aware that you would like to stay if there is a chance of it?

Apart from anything else - most people do not start their long term career in a short-term contract position, they will gain experience & knowledge which will benefit them in future jobs as they build their employment history - whether it be with one or one hundred employers.

Now PLEASE go & register with some agencies, buy the jobs paper, look online & find another job, rather than complaining because your employer isn't begging you to stay even though there is no job for you!

adouglasmhor

dmg24 wrote: »

So find other ways to get out to meet people.

How about joining the gym (yes, many gyms are adaptable and accessible to practically all people now), or joining a book club?

What about the people that you met at your job - could you meet them for a drink?

There are endless ways to improve yourself that do not need an employer to instigate them. Be proactive.

I suggested the gym to Phil before, he could even get a referral and a discount for health reasons, but he prefers to remain a spanner :rolleyes:

Phil, if you were OK at the job you have a bit more experience on your CV and a reference! Get you’re arse in gear and get on with life.