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PPI Reclaiming discussion Part II

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  • Laini
    Laini Posts: 448 Forumite
    di3004 wrote: »
    I don't know.......:confused: , at first I thought it was just me......:rolleyes: , has anyone else complained this evening ?:confused:
    it seems slow for me but nothing else and we are on virgin media.
    do you think it could be the weather cos we have had weather warnings for tonight-thunder and lightening and flash floods, its really warm outside and very still-spooky
    still fighting for my money !!!
  • di3004
    di3004 Posts: 42,579 Forumite
    Laini wrote: »
    it seems slow for me but nothing else and we are on virgin media.
    do you think it could be the weather cos we have had weather warnings for tonight-thunder and lightening and flash floods, its really warm outside and very still-spooky


    Laini, you took the words from my mouth hun, I was tooooo slow posting again......:rolleyes: :confused: , yeah maybe it is to do with the horrible weather we have all been having, most of us anyway.......:rolleyes:
    The one and only "Dizzy Di" :D
  • angelflower_2
    angelflower_2 Posts: 2,426 Forumite
    Hey....sorry if this has been asked a million times before....I took out car finance from GE Money in 2004. The guy in the dealership who did the paperwork was a muppet and didnt have a clue. All the paperwork I had to sign had the ppi preticked and there was no way i could have got the car without agreeing to the ppi. I have sent a reclaim letter and had their final response within 6 days!!! They basically told me i dont have a hope and that i should go to FO. Now, I have filled in the form for them and sent it off so will await their response but there were also so many inaccuracies in the letter from GE Money that I responded to their letter. They have held their ground and said that I have to reclaim from the dealership....surely this cant be right as I didnt pay any money to the dealership???

    Anyone had experience with car finance with GE money pre 2005 ruling??
    DFW 228 LONG H 68
    DFD 2017 :eek:
  • di3004
    di3004 Posts: 42,579 Forumite
    pinknico wrote: »
    Hello new to this and trying to find the right thread to post in!
    I have sent letters to both these companys regarding miss sold PPI and partial reclaim due to early repayment. Has anyone had any success with either of these companys?


    Tiggrae is right, I remembered reading something about "picture" under receivership.....:confused: , annoying this, as I have a similar problem with one of the brokers I used which was Click finance, as they dissolved in 2006, I have been searching information and this company, where this company of Click run as several companies, under the Click group, where the same directors are still active.
    I did however write to the director who said he would get back in early August as he was away, this was over 2 weeks ago but had since had a letter reply from the compliance manager to say again they have no reponsibility with the Click I used.....:confused: .
    Now I have gone back to the lenders of Endeavour to reclaim on the unfair rebate instead, only a few more days and I should hopefully hear.

    Not sure if the director of Click will get back on his own account now though.:confused: .

    Who were the lenders of Picture ?;)
    The one and only "Dizzy Di" :D
  • Laini
    Laini Posts: 448 Forumite
    Hey....sorry if this has been asked a million times before....I took out car finance from GE Money in 2004. The guy in the dealership who did the paperwork was a muppet and didnt have a clue. All the paperwork I had to sign had the ppi preticked and there was no way i could have got the car without agreeing to the ppi. I have sent a reclaim letter and had their final response within 6 days!!! They basically told me i dont have a hope and that i should go to FO. Now, I have filled in the form for them and sent it off so will await their response but there were also so many inaccuracies in the letter from GE Money that I responded to their letter. They have held their ground and said that I have to reclaim from the dealership....surely this cant be right as I didnt pay any money to the dealership???

    Anyone had experience with car finance with GE money pre 2005 ruling??
    have you sent a SAR? I would
    then this would give you who you signed the credit agreement for and who you are paying back including PPI
    still fighting for my money !!!
  • angelflower_2
    angelflower_2 Posts: 2,426 Forumite
    man, i thought i was pretty clued up...whats a SAR? The credit agreement is definately with GE Money and that is who I am paying the PPI too. They are just saying because the garage were the ones to sold it to me, it is them who will have to answer to whether or not it was mis-sold. Surely that is a discussion between them and the dealership and not me as no money was paid to the dealership and all paperwork is directly for GE Money?
    DFW 228 LONG H 68
    DFD 2017 :eek:
  • Laini
    Laini Posts: 448 Forumite
    man, i thought i was pretty clued up...whats a SAR? The credit agreement is definately with GE Money and that is who I am paying the PPI too. They are just saying because the garage were the ones to sold it to me, it is them who will have to answer to whether or not it was mis-sold. Surely that is a discussion between them and the dealership and not me as no money was paid to the dealership and all paperwork is directly for GE Money?
    its a subject access request.
    send it to GE Money -they will know you mean business when you send for this.it will have notes on tyour file including telephone calls, letters to and from you and other info like comments they have made - very informative
    You are right but neither will take the blame cos they work together they will fob you off.
    if its their final response fill in the complaint form on FOS website and send it to the FOS and send a copy to both the dealer ship and GE money I would still send a SAR as well cos you can put in details from it to go on your FOS form.

    heres one I use

    lol
    Laini xx:j




    X
    X
    X
    X
    DATE

    address
    X
    X
    X


    Dear

    Re: Account number:

    In the first part under the Data Protection Act 1998:

    Under the Data Protection Act 1984 and 1998, and including the right of subject access under these acts, please supply me with a complete list of transactions and charges relating to the above accounts held with you since they were opened.

    Additionally where there has been any event in my account history over this period which has required manual intervention by any member of your staff or any other person, I require disclosure of any indication or notes which have either caused or resulted in that manual intervention or other evidence of that manual intervention in relation to my business with you.

    If you are unable to supply data relating to manual intervention because there has been no such manual intervention then please be kind as to confirm this in your response to this request.


    For the avoidance of any and all doubt, I reiterate:

    I hereby request that you supply me with any and all historical data in your possession which, in any way appertains to me, including (but not exhaustively) a copy of the original signed executed agreement; statements of account; duplicate statements and/or print outs of all account transactions; all internal and external correspondence sent or received by you including memo’s, logs, notes, screen prints and transcripts; notes of manual interventions such as telephone attendants' notes, copies of stored telephone conversations, internal and external emails; any other information held on any/all types of media in any relevant filing system (microfiche included).

    If you have disclosed any information to a third party (with or without my express permission), will you please include details of this in your reply, along with notes of any legal action passed or pending (to include a true copy of default notices, court orders and the like).

    Where any information that you provide includes any charges, for example returned payments, late payment fees, and so forth, would you please advise your breakdown of actual costs (liquidated damages) incurred for each charge, and the Term or Condition on which you rely upon to claim such a charge.





    I also require that you forward, within the above mentioned time scale, a true copy of the Terms and Conditions that were in force at the time my account was opened, and any subsequent amendments to those Terms and Conditions.

    I enclose the statutory maximum fee of £10.00 to access ALL data held by XXXXX about myself. You should be fully aware of your statutory obligations under the Data Protection Act and that any failure to comply with this request will involve a complaint to the ICO as well as potential legal action.

    You have 40 days in which to comply with this request.

    This communication has been sent Recorded Delivery so I can ensure compliance on these issues within the legislative timeframes.

    Yours Sincerely






    Enc:
    Postal Order for £10. Specifically for DPA/SAR request – not to be credited to any account
    still fighting for my money !!!
  • di3004
    di3004 Posts: 42,579 Forumite
    man, i thought i was pretty clued up...whats a SAR? The credit agreement is definately with GE Money and that is who I am paying the PPI too. They are just saying because the garage were the ones to sold it to me, it is them who will have to answer to whether or not it was mis-sold. Surely that is a discussion between them and the dealership and not me as no money was paid to the dealership and all paperwork is directly for GE Money?


    Hi there angleflower.

    Right a SAR is a Subject Access Request, you send this in order to receive all the information they have on you, this will include all accounts, transcripts-phone calls, emails, just everything, they have 40 days to comply with this which is deadline.
    Isn't it that of GE money taking your payments ? I would of thought it was them.;)
    With the SAR send a £10 cheque payment or postal order, post by recorded delivery, you can then check this on the royal mail website (track and trace), they cannot deny receiving this request then.;)

    SAR above by our lovely hard working member.

    Di.
    xx
    The one and only "Dizzy Di" :D
  • After having to wait a whole 70 days for my SAR from HBOS,what do I get? A couple of faxed A4 sheets with a load of figures on it which I can only presume is amounts that I paid and nothing else - no explaination what it is or anything!
    Used Lainis template so I did ask for everything..........
    Have sent a complaint to ICO and FO as I have had enough of dealing with them,letters are ignored and phone calls 'passed around departments' with no help what so ever.
  • di3004
    di3004 Posts: 42,579 Forumite
    After having to wait a whole 70 days for my SAR from HBOS,what do I get? A couple of faxed A4 sheets with a load of figures on it which I can only presume is amounts that I paid and nothing else - no explaination what it is or anything!
    Used Lainis template so I did ask for everything..........
    Have sent a complaint to ICO and FO as I have had enough of dealing with them,letters are ignored and phone calls 'passed around departments' with no help what so ever.


    Hi angelwillow.
    Blimey that was a long wait :eek: , did you also send them a reminder before the 40 days were up ? I'm sure there is a reminder letter to send it you want to, I did with one of mine but luckily mine arrived on the last day of when it should.

    Some of my SAR's I have had wads of information, but on one of them I only received about 4 maybe 5 sheets of info, I was annoyed but as this was about a loan in early 2000's I thought that maybe why as it ended early 2000's too.

    I have that many SAR's here and some have been a godsend.
    Shame your not getting nowhere with the ICO and the FO.......:confused: .
    I know they are over-run with complaints but some sort of feedback would be something wouldn't it hun ?
    The one and only "Dizzy Di" :D
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