Halfords Trade Card

steveo3002

they can just show a handfull of reciepts and get a card like everyone else can then

goldspanners

Eddy_B wrote: »

Because it was not offered to all Vx clubs just one. This club put a lot of time and effort into developing a relationship with Halfords which ended up with us being given the trade card to our members. Other clubs wanting to jump on a bandwagon we had build started to complain to halfords and now we have lost out.

If it was another club who thought of the idea and approched halford then we followed them if they had said no we would have let it drop and thought good luck to you. Not badgered Halfords into making the decision to withdraw the offer from everyone.

so i hope they are all happy now as they can't even get the card through US!!!!!! :T :T :T

thats equality for you. it was the right decision made by halfords, why should one club who brown nosed and advertised halfords products be exclusive to the card?
its a trade card,not a vx enthusiasts card. get over it and if you really want a card there are other ways of getting one.

Eddy_B

goldspanners wrote: »

thats equality for you. it was the right decision made by halfords, why should one club who brown nosed and advertised halfords products be exclusive to the card?
its a trade card,not a vx enthusiasts card. get over it and if you really want a card there are other ways of getting one.

so as an AA member it is unfair to all the Non AA members as i get discounts they can't. Or as a non RAC member it is unfair that i can't get the discounts RAC members do. Or any other membership discounts that organisations have managed to get for their members and before you go off telling me that the AA and the RAC are companies not clubs they were clubs handing out discounts for many many years before they became companies.

Or is it fair that anyone gets any discounts off anything as it's unfair to the people that can't get it. By your reasoning Why should there be a trade discount in any case.

also FYI we don't avertise Halfords products.

LSI

Okay then, let's set the record straight.

Firstly, nobody is being directly blamed, it's one of those things and what's done is done now, it can't be changed.

Now to clear a few things up.

goldspanners wrote: »

i thought the name TRADE CARD was a bit of a give away at who they were aiming it at. :rolleyes:
now if it were an ENTHUSIASTS CARD then i could see your point.

Hardly a relevant point atall there I fear. We were a guineapig so to speak, to experiment with Halfords giving out trade cards to car clubs, so enthusiasts could benefit from trade prices, they obviously aren't going to separate cards as Trade and Enthusiast when they offer the same benefits.

goldspanners wrote: »

halfords were openly advertising the trade card,so i find it hard to see how you can blame folk on here or other forums.

Halfords openly advertise the trade cards, yes you are right. But the problem is, people who do not fit the criteria for having a card have been simply getting one through the club, and that has been the problem.

Keith wrote: »

Ah, you are complaining that the average joe who maybe buys one or two parts once in a while can't now get them cheaper.

The card is still openly available to the home mechanic, but not to the general public who want cheap wipers

Not complaining. I'm explaining, and expressing disappointment.

The card was given to us so that enthusiasts could benefit from trade prices, that isn't the case now.

Despite what may be advertised, obtaining a trade card by simply going in store and saying 'I'm a home mechanic, I would like a card please' does not wash. It's been shown that to obtain a card via the store you have to prove receipts of trade purchase goods, or payslips proving you are in the trade. So no, the card isn't just available by popping in and saying you're a home mechanic I'm affraid.

steveo3002 wrote: »

they can just show a handfull of reciepts and get a card like everyone else can then

As stated above, it's seldom that simple.

goldspanners wrote: »

thats equality for you. it was the right decision made by halfords, why should one club who brown nosed and advertised halfords products be exclusive to the card?
its a trade card,not a vx enthusiasts card. get over it and if you really want a card there are other ways of getting one.

I'm wondering how much you know about how we obtained the card in the first place to feel you have the grounds to 'slag us off' in that manner?

Halfords were never 'brown nosed', nor were they ever advertised directly by the club, their name was mentioned as we offered our members the card as part of their club subscription, but we never advertised for Halfords. The card was aquired originally by the previous club admin, it was used to test the water over a period to see whether Halfords wanted to offer cards to all clubs, I assume they decided it wasn't the right move or time, but kept us on for having them.

Saying it's some sort of righteous equality that VxON was issued the cards but not other clubs is extremely petty, and dare I say spiteful. It's very much akin to saying 'Mr Bloggs round the corner drives an Audi RS6 and I want one, so I'm going to do what I can to see he doesn't have it anymore'. That is not, in any way equality, it's wanting what someone, or some organisation has, not getting it, and as such going to lengths to see that they no longer get it.

That's a very poor, and generally juvenile attitude, and I worry about people if that's what people's attitudes are coming to. There are other clubs with other benefits that we would quite like too, we can't get them for one reason or another but c'est la vie... good luck to them.
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So to summarise, the reason I felt the need to post here, wasn't to lay any blame at anyone's doorstep, it's been an accumulation of reasons why we've lost the card, and as unfortunate as it is, it's done now and that is that. The reason is to say that in future cases, I urge people to consider their actions before spreading the word everywhere, as in saving a few people a few quid, it can, as in this case, have repercutions on the sourse of the discount, in our case, our club. I think I know the person who originally posted about the card available at VxON, and shellsuit, if you do come across this in reading I'd like you to know that my posts here, and I assume Eddy's and anyone elses that may arrive are NOT a personal attack on you. I have no doubt in my mind that what became of it was not ever your intentions, so I'd hate for you to assume that was where I/We were going with this.

But please in future, a note for all.... consider carefully what may be the outcome of your actions when you attempt to spread the word of available money saving cards/schemes etc, as it can be unfair on a club or other network such as ourselves, when our enthusiast members who the card was intended for, suffer as a result of coverage on other communities.

Matt.

impster

Keith wrote: »

Surely, if they need the Trade Card they will qualify in other ways...?

I would have though so, yes. A genuine trader or anyone who can prove they work with vehicle mechanics will get one.

As for the VxON losing out. Maybe there's a chance for another owners' group to get their slice of the pie.

Anyhow, with a bit of searching there's very little you can't get at (or less than) Halfords 'trade' prices anyway.

For the record, 'trade' price at some independant outlets locally to me are at about 60% of Halfords trade prices

LSI

impster wrote: »

I would have though so, yes. A genuine trader or anyone who can prove they work with vehicle mechanics will get one.

We've had people try an obtain a card in store, without actually working in the trade, and simply being a home mechanic.

On all attempts a card has been declined.

impster wrote: »

As for the VxON losing out. Maybe there's a chance for another owners' group to get their slice of the pie.

Not going to happen, Halfords now have no intention of issuing trade cards to clubs at present because of the reasons discussed.

Furthermore, the comment regarding VxON losing out and other clubs getting a slice of the pie, I find a particularly selfish notion. This pie of which you speak is not some freely available good fortune, we approached Halfords some years ago regarding the concept, and the rest is history, our loss should not be considered someone else's gain anymore than someone's loss of wealth should be someone else's gain, I fail to see any fair logic in that atall, personally.

goldspanners

LSI wrote: »

But please in future, a note for all.... consider carefully what may be the outcome of your actions when you attempt to spread the word of available money saving cards/schemes etc, as it can be unfair on a club or other network such as ourselves, when our enthusiast members who the card was intended for, suffer as a result of coverage on other communities.

Matt.

and you think my attitude is petty?
this is a money saving site,so unfortunatly thats what we do here, we save each other money.
if you are eligible under halford terms and conditions you will get a card if you want one,they obviously feel folk who are only enthusiastic about vauxhalls arent eligible. they monitor card use so maybe your club members werent using them enough to warrant giving then out to your club.
either way it doesnt matter, halfords openly advertise the trade card so by people posting it on this site shouldnt really matter.
vent your anger and disgust with halfords not moneysavers.

oh and for the price list, halfords professional torque wrench 60-300 Nm, RRP £60- tradecard price £47.99.
but dont tell anyone else,its just our little secret ssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh:D

LSI

goldspanners wrote: »

if you are eligible under halford terms and conditions you will get a card if you want one,they obviously feel folk who are only enthusiastic about vauxhalls arent eligible.

Not atall, where did you get that from?

They wanted to offer car enthusiasts on our site the trade card, so they are infact quite eligible, by their own terms infact.

The problem is, a card that is/was intended for those enthusiasts, being plastered about as 'go here, get a trade card' was NOT their intentions.

goldspanners wrote: »

they monitor card use so maybe your club members werent using them enough to warrant giving then out to your club.

Again, not the case. The reasons for the card being withdrawn were a mixture of the reasons stated above, and other clubs complaining because they couldn't get it also.

Absolutely nothing to do with card usage atall. And yes, I do know this for a fact.

goldspanners wrote: »

either way it doesnt matter, halfords openly advertise the trade card so by people posting it on this site shouldnt really matter.
vent your anger and disgust with halfords not moneysavers.

Again you're miles off the point.

Halfords openly advertise the card, they advertise the card to those eligible for the card. By using VxON, people have found a way when they are not eligible to get round it. Posting on this site is basically posting of a way to get round the fact of people being ineligible, this is how you obtain a card etc... Completely different to advertising the car itself.

goldspanners

LSI wrote: »

Not atall, where did you get that from?

They wanted to offer car enthusiasts on our site the trade card, so they are infact quite eligible, by their own terms infact.

The problem is, a card that is/was intended for those enthusiasts, being plastered about as 'go here, get a trade card' was NOT their intentions.



Again, not the case. The reasons for the card being withdrawn were a mixture of the reasons stated above, and other clubs complaining because they couldn't get it also.

Absolutely nothing to do with card usage atall. And yes, I do know this for a fact.



Again you're miles off the point.

Halfords openly advertise the card, they advertise the card to those eligible for the card. By using VxON, people have found a way when they are not eligible to get round it. Posting on this site is basically posting of a way to get round the fact of people being ineligible, this is how you obtain a card etc... Completely different to advertising the car itself.

sour grapes because your club isnt attracting as many members as it once was i guess.
as you have said its hard to obtain a card if you dont qualify,so what does it matter if its on this site.
most guys on this thread are enthusiastic about thier cars and have receipts and invoices to prove it so they are eligible for a trade card,this is how most obtained one in the first place. the only difference is that they dont pay an annual subscription fee to an owners club like yours, again money saving.

LSI

goldspanners wrote: »

sour grapes because your club isnt attracting as many members as it once was i guess.

Or maybe disappointment as a club admin that our members have lost out because of others either cashing in on it, or complaining about not being able to have it themselves.

Look back at my posts and you'll see my intentions here were to shed light on the repercussions such actions as here can have.

goldspanners wrote: »

as you have said its hard to obtain a card if you dont qualify,so what does it matter if its on this site.

I seem to be repeating myself alot, again... it matters because people uneligible for a card have simply been getting one by coming to us, people would find such information about that on sites like this

goldspanners wrote: »

most guys on this thread are enthusiastic about thier cars and have receipts and invoices to prove it so they are eligible for a trade card,this is how most obtained one in the first place. the only difference is that they dont pay an annual subscription fee to an owners club like yours, again money saving.

I'm sure most guys on here do. But this is a public forum, information about this place advertising how to get a card simply by paying for it spreads around.... hell, Halfords got wind of it for a start.