Here I go again ….

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Well, at least with UW lower rates you can have your heaters turned up full when it's cold to ensure they don't go too cool during the evenings. When it's really cold I put a fan heater on to supplement the living room heater for the last hour of off peak. 

Rosie1001

Swipe said:

Well, at least with UW lower rates you can have your heaters turned up full when it's cold to ensure they don't go too cool during the evenings. When it's really cold I put a fan heater on to supplement the living room heater for the last hour of off peak. 

They are always on full  lol 

I’ve still got my winter quilt on ….🥶

Swipe

Rosie1001 said:

Swipe said:

Well, at least with UW lower rates you can have your heaters turned up full when it's cold to ensure they don't go too cool during the evenings. When it's really cold I put a fan heater on to supplement the living room heater for the last hour of off peak. 

They are always on full  lol 

I’ve still got my winter quilt on ….🥶

If you find it's too cold in the evenings there's no exit fee, so you can always switch to Octopus Snug to get the 1 hour afternoon boost.

Rosie1001

So will the tariff I looked at work with Alcs??? 

I can’t find any information on it 

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Rosie1001 said:

So will the tariff I looked at work with Alcs??? 

I can’t find any information on it 

Yes, as long as your smart meter is configured for E7 before you switch away from EDF. All UW will do is update the tariff prices on your meter and if your ALCS is working, it will remain untouched and continue to switch as before at the same times. You won't find any information on it as it's assumed you already have a working E7 meter with ALCS. Either way, if anything went wrong, UW would be able to reconfigure your ALCS to correct it.

Scot_39

Rosie1001 said:

Based on my usage now .. UW works out approx £1600 a year …

EDF …£1950 

the off peak is around £500 a year more with EDF 

octopus fixed 12 m …is £1800 

that’s all on E7 I think …. 

Yes at current splits - your Octopus quote was c2k/c8k - so 80% off peak - normally you will gain from the cheaper off peak deals.

As UW night rates are cheaper you are winmimg on their see saw balance.

However that mix might change as you now face the first winter without your afternoon boost in place.  

Your old NSH iirc can take in c14kWh of energy on your 5+2 so old 2 hr boost slot.

If were to assume 7 kWh - (equivlent to needing 1 1 kW heater on solid for 3.5 hrs in both locations in late afternoons and evenings - on average over say 4 months of a harsh winter (overnight should last on all but the coldest days) - plus say 3 machine loads of washing at 1kWh each per week - you might easily shift say 1000 kWh - making that mix 3000 vs 7000 etc.

Need more - like all 14 kWh - (bearing in mind they might take more over 7 hrs than 5 hrs on highest settings - so hopefully pessimistic) - maybe pushing 4000 vs 6000 off peak.

Still more than enough vs SR - but youd have to crunch the maths for different E7 rates.

As long as you didnt get to say 6000 vs 4000 or 6500 vs 3500 -  youd still be saving vs single rate - but the £350 savings predicted - are very sensitive to the % of use.

 

PS UW fixes seem to have a decent premium ( in part the variable seems to have a c10p discount on SC)

Anyone up with current fixes - how does that £100 premium at UW stack up - does it drop on fixes if bndle up - so is it a ploy to sign up to a tied deal with mobile or broadband etc ?

Scot_39

Rosie1001 said:

Scot_39 said:

Yes Octopius likes some others don't put e7 in the tariff names - but the quote should be e7 based on your new meter.  If click on tariff info it should give both rates and the SC to compare with EDFs.  You've certainly supplied day / night (well peak off peak) use.

My first thought was if you were going to try out Snug - you might want to go flexible - but iirc many Octopus (12m at least) fixes were (still are ? - I'd check first) free exit fee deals anyway.

So if still true - you might as well take the lower charges from day 1 - and maybe have a couple of months of hopefully meter / supplier stress free life (after the last x months of EDF - you surely deserve it) before the big winter bills become due.

And dont forget once on e7 you should be able to hop on Snug to see if that 6+1 split works and works better for you heatwise - and thats still no wiring changes at your end.

And as other posts in past for you - do try to get a £50 referral code from friends or family - or as links posted.

Think I ruled out snug as my timings on acls are over ,used to be 9 mins , but it’s 11 mins over each change  over now 

Welsome to the devil in the detail and the guess work.

See above re mix assumptions

The 11m does take a little of the shine off the c9p rate - more so in the afternoon.

But on a standard E7 deal you could be paying 32p - on an aggressive e7 split like your variable UW quote - 35.7? p/kWh for any heating that would occur in that 1 hr - or later in the evening to replace it.  And your old NSH both c3.4kWh input tpye size iirc - could take nearly 7 kWh on Snug's 1 hr slot.

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I wouldn't bundle. Putting all your eggs in the same basket makes it harder to leave. Plus with no exit fees, you could always switch away again to another supplier for a cheaper day rate for 6 months over late Spring/Summer/ early Autumn.

Rosie1001

What do I do ???

got on octopus normal E7 ?? See how I manage ?? Then swutch to snug for the winter months ?? Or can I not do that ???

QrizB

Swipe said:

Rosie1001 said:

So will the tariff I looked at work with Alcs??? 

I can’t find any information on it 

Yes, as long as your smart meter is configured for E7 before you switch away from EDF.

Even if it is still on E10 timings, UW use index readings for billing so the E7 tariff will still "work".

Swipe said:

Either way, if anything went wrong, UW would be able to reconfigure your ALCS to correct it.

Rosie's extensive experience with EDF CS will come in useful if she ever needs to contact UW!