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Ebay gone to far with new policy change from 4th Feb 2025!

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  • 2dareis2do
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    edited 15 February at 1:55AM
    messia07 said:
    i'm a bit confused. i've read ebay is going to make it mandatory for sellers to buy postage through ebay?..

    when i do sell an item, i prefer to send parcels from my local post office. will ebay force me to send parcels through a random postal company? or if i can still use royal mail, will i be made to buy RM postage through ebay and then print out the labels at home? (seems like a lot of hassle + there is times when i have no printer ink).

    thanks
    Who knows but hopefully not. 

    There have been some changes around this where you can order your postage on ebay which you can pay with your  pending balance. Then you can take that to your post office and they print a label for you. Unfortunately they don't seem to support the option for home pick up where they also bring the label but perhaps not every courier offers that service. 

    actually taking and paying at the post office is usually more expensive (except for a basic letter aga)

    Making you a single courier would be like only being able to use IE to browse the internet.
  • 2dareis2do
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    I would also think that if Evri prove to be unreliable and ebay pick up too many hits on lost items, then they might rethink offering it entirely.
    This happened to me recently with Evri. Waited 2 weeks and they refunded me. Just shows as stuck at the depot.
    Annoying.

  • 2dareis2do
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    I can't find that message in my eBay messages, I think it may have been under their marketing message I had received and I deleted it in anger !  :(

    However there is a link stating what eBay are doing with simple delivery and what private sellers should expect:-

    https://www.valueaddedresource.net/ebay-simple-delivery-managed-shipping/


    "eBay is ramping the rollout of Simple Delivery by making it the default shipping option in the listing form for most private sellers, though currently sellers can still choose to opt out when creating a listing.

    However, that opt out choice will be removed sometime in Q1 2025 as eBay plans to make Simple Delivery (also sometimes referred to as Managed Shipping) mandatory for private sellers on all eligible items - though an exact date has not yet been set.

    That news wasn't announced directly to sellers, but rather dropped into the Q3 2024 earnings call with CEO Jamie Iannone explaining to investors how Managed Shipping will be phased in to boost the company's revenue."

    If they do decide to roll this out they will get so many complaints. Now they are making money from buyer protection  Insurance for buyers from private sellers hopefully they will re think this. 
  • 2dareis2do
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    So I would rather throw my parcel under a bus ! then let EVRi deliver it ! - They are shocking and eBay is pro- EVRi because they are DIRT CHEAP !

    So as I said before in an earlier post, the main reason why I have now stopped selling on eBay is because I do not like or trust their managed delivery program and resent it being forced on me, just like they forced everyone to have to accept managed payments if they wanted to continue selling on eBay which was just a smart trick to take full control of sellers sales money and INVEST IT ! for a short time before returning it to it's rightful owner.    
    I am a private seller on ebay and have the option to choose royal mail when listing my item. Usually I just select the QR code and take this down my local post office. No option to arrange collection though and works differently from bulk order page (no option for QR code)
  • 2dareis2do
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    So we have now gone from eBay has faults, to it is some sort of conspiracy...
    Why do buyers from non UK sellers benefit from Buyer Protection for free?
  • 2dareis2do
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    If ebay get too greedy there is nothing to stop people completing  their sale outside of ebay.
  • soolin
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    I see nothing to suggest that a non UK buyer from a private seller wouldn’t also,pay the fee, where did you see this please?
    My bad. I was probably confusing buyers with sellers. 

    I think you are probably right in that all buyers pay for buyer protection on all products from UK listed private sellers.

    Am I right in thinking that buyer protection fees do not apply to ebay business accounts?
    Yes that’s correct , these new changes do not apply to sellers registered as a business seller, however fees for business sellers are charged to the seller not the buyer. 
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  • soolin
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    In a statement eBay clarified this issue: "To confirm, for items from business sellers and non-UK private sellers, buyers get the Buyer Protection benefits at no extra cost. This means that listings by business sellers will not have the Buyer Protection fee added."

    https://www.tivysideadvertiser.co.uk/news/24923032.ebays-new-fees-double-price-private-listings/

    Looking at the German site it states:

    Gebühren für private Verkäufer


    Sie können jeden Monat 320 Angebote erstellen, ohne dass dafür eine Angebotsgebühr anfällt. Für alle Angebote, die nach dem Ausschöpfen dieses Monatskontingents erstellt werden, wird eine Gebühr von EUR 0,50 berechnet.

    which translates as

    Fees for private sellers
    You can create 320 listings each month with no listing fee. A fee of EUR 0.50 will be charged for all offers created after this monthly quota has been exhausted.

    So why is it that for non-UK private sellers, buyers get the Buyer Protection benefits at no extra cost? Is this due to UK legislation, simply that ebay does not like UK private sellers or some other reason?
    I’m not sure your reasoning makes sense? EBay is a multi National company, it operates independently within each of the countries it has a presence and changes the terms and conditions to match the laws and requirements for each. I’m not sure why you think eBay Uk should be the same as eBay.com or eBay De . For instance in the US on eBay com even buying from a business seller doesn’t give you a right to a return as it does in the UK, eBay has to abide by laws. 

    We are not Germany, France won’t be operating the same as eBay com, they are all different. 
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  • soolin
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    If ebay get too greedy there is nothing to stop people completing  their sale outside of ebay.
    If you use eBay then you know that is near impossible now. 
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  • 2dareis2do
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    soolin said:

    In a statement eBay clarified this issue: "To confirm, for items from business sellers and non-UK private sellers, buyers get the Buyer Protection benefits at no extra cost. This means that listings by business sellers will not have the Buyer Protection fee added."

    https://www.tivysideadvertiser.co.uk/news/24923032.ebays-new-fees-double-price-private-listings/

    Looking at the German site it states:

    Gebühren für private Verkäufer


    Sie können jeden Monat 320 Angebote erstellen, ohne dass dafür eine Angebotsgebühr anfällt. Für alle Angebote, die nach dem Ausschöpfen dieses Monatskontingents erstellt werden, wird eine Gebühr von EUR 0,50 berechnet.

    which translates as

    Fees for private sellers
    You can create 320 listings each month with no listing fee. A fee of EUR 0.50 will be charged for all offers created after this monthly quota has been exhausted.

    So why is it that for non-UK private sellers, buyers get the Buyer Protection benefits at no extra cost? Is this due to UK legislation, simply that ebay does not like UK private sellers or some other reason?
    I’m not sure your reasoning makes sense? EBay is a multi National company, it operates independently within each of the countries it has a presence and changes the terms and conditions to match the laws and requirements for each. I’m not sure why you think eBay Uk should be the same as eBay.com or eBay De . For instance in the US on eBay com even buying from a business seller doesn’t give you a right to a return as it does in the UK, eBay has to abide by laws. 

    We are not Germany, France won’t be operating the same as eBay com, they are all different. 
    I am just trying to understand what the difference is?

    Are we simply ahead of the curve and the others will follow? If not perhaps it is this specific to the UK for some particular reason. 

    I would genuinely like to know as it clearly does not seem like a level playing field or fair to me now.

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