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Tomato Energy (Electric Only Supplier) - Too Good To Be True ?

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  • Spoonie_Turtle
    Spoonie_Turtle Posts: 10,753 Forumite
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    lohr500 said:
    Qyburn said:
    solarite said:
    Yep, same here. Gone with E.ON as their standing charge is only 60p compared to 69p for my region and night rate 7.5p for 6 hours. Not as good as Tomato, but close. Switch will take place on Thursday and had the 'Are you sure we can't convince you to stay' email from BG. I was very nearly going with their EV tariff at 9p/ SC 68p.I don't have an EV and EOn didn't require any EV details.
    If that's confirmed it's another change of heart on Eon's part, we had a thread just over a month ago saying they no longer offer their EV tariff unless you have an EV.

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6635208/eon-next-have-removed-next-drive-tariffs-for-battery-only-customers/p1
    Assuming we are looking at Next Drive V11, the T&C's indicate that having an EV is a requirement : 

    3. Eligibility

    3.1 To be eligible for this tariff the customer must:

    3.1.1 Own or lease an electric or hybrid vehicle and charge it at their home. If the Customer does not meet this eligibility criteria, we reserve the right to remove them from this tariff.


    And the online sign up process Eligibility page requires you to tick a box saying "I have read and understood this". One of the Eligibility statements shown is that "You have an electric car".

    Whether EON would ever check or ask for proof is another matter. 


    If they DO ask for proof and you don't have any, what are they going to do? Sue you for buying electricity from them? The whole idea of only allowing overnight cheap electricity to EV owners nowadays is ridiculous. There can only be a tiny number of people who have solar batteries, and what difference does it make if you use solar batteries or a storage heater to use large amounts of electricity overnight? I think I may go with E-on then.
    In theory they could rebill you on the SVT.  Whether they would bother, who knows?
  • s71hj
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    Having fallen victim to the Tomato closure I've just discovered that the MSE APP energy club doesn't appear to cater for searching based on some night usage, unless I'm missing something. TCB and compare the market too
     Only go compare seems to. 
  • masonic
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    s71hj said:
    Having fallen victim to the Tomato closure I've just discovered that the MSE APP energy club doesn't appear to cater for searching based on some night usage, unless I'm missing something. TCB and compare the market too
     Only go compare seems to. 
    You need to select the option saying you pay a different price depending on time of day. This looks like TOU, but actually has provisions for E7 IIRC
  • s71hj
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    masonic said:
    s71hj said:
    Having fallen victim to the Tomato closure I've just discovered that the MSE APP energy club doesn't appear to cater for searching based on some night usage, unless I'm missing something. TCB and compare the market too
     Only go compare seems to. 
    You need to select the option saying you pay a different price depending on time of day. This looks like TOU, but actually has provisions for E7 IIRC
    Try as I might I can't find the bit on the tool where you can do that. It's probably me! 
  • masonic
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    s71hj said:
    masonic said:
    s71hj said:
    Having fallen victim to the Tomato closure I've just discovered that the MSE APP energy club doesn't appear to cater for searching based on some night usage, unless I'm missing something. TCB and compare the market too
     Only go compare seems to. 
    You need to select the option saying you pay a different price depending on time of day. This looks like TOU, but actually has provisions for E7 IIRC
    Try as I might I can't find the bit on the tool where you can do that. It's probably me! 
    Third question down:

  • Newbie_John
    Newbie_John Posts: 1,366 Forumite
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    lohr500 said:
    Qyburn said:
    solarite said:
    Yep, same here. Gone with E.ON as their standing charge is only 60p compared to 69p for my region and night rate 7.5p for 6 hours. Not as good as Tomato, but close. Switch will take place on Thursday and had the 'Are you sure we can't convince you to stay' email from BG. I was very nearly going with their EV tariff at 9p/ SC 68p.I don't have an EV and EOn didn't require any EV details.
    If that's confirmed it's another change of heart on Eon's part, we had a thread just over a month ago saying they no longer offer their EV tariff unless you have an EV.

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6635208/eon-next-have-removed-next-drive-tariffs-for-battery-only-customers/p1
    Assuming we are looking at Next Drive V11, the T&C's indicate that having an EV is a requirement : 

    3. Eligibility

    3.1 To be eligible for this tariff the customer must:

    3.1.1 Own or lease an electric or hybrid vehicle and charge it at their home. If the Customer does not meet this eligibility criteria, we reserve the right to remove them from this tariff.


    And the online sign up process Eligibility page requires you to tick a box saying "I have read and understood this". One of the Eligibility statements shown is that "You have an electric car".

    Whether EON would ever check or ask for proof is another matter. 


    If they DO ask for proof and you don't have any, what are they going to do? Sue you for buying electricity from them? The whole idea of only allowing overnight cheap electricity to EV owners nowadays is ridiculous. There can only be a tiny number of people who have solar batteries, and what difference does it make if you use solar batteries or a storage heater to use large amounts of electricity overnight? I think I may go with E-on then.
    In theory they could rebill you on the SVT.  Whether they would bother, who knows?
    I doubt it, T&C state they can "remove you" from that tarrif. Think of all the cases, someone having EV and not charging it, someone having EV at the sign up moment but then selling it, someone having EV but cycling to work in summer so not charging it then.. impossible to figure out from the data, and having an employee to find people like that would be too costly.

    Anyway, there's Good Energy with 6.5p 0-5am that clearly says EV is recommended to make most of it but not required. So of you're worried try them instead.

    I also think the main issue with home batteries is the brown energy that some providers are not keen on (buy at 5p sell during peak hours).
  • s71hj
    s71hj Posts: 1,019 Forumite
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    masonic said:
    s71hj said:
    masonic said:
    s71hj said:
    Having fallen victim to the Tomato closure I've just discovered that the MSE APP energy club doesn't appear to cater for searching based on some night usage, unless I'm missing something. TCB and compare the market too
     Only go compare seems to. 
    You need to select the option saying you pay a different price depending on time of day. This looks like TOU, but actually has provisions for E7 IIRC
    Try as I might I can't find the bit on the tool where you can do that. It's probably me! 
    Third question down:

    Not got that question as far as I can see.

  • GSV3MIAC2
    GSV3MIAC2 Posts: 14 Forumite
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    I don't have it either, just a note saying the system doesn't work for tou type tariffs.
     this is the website, is there a separate app?
  • masonic
    masonic Posts: 28,310 Forumite
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    GSV3MIAC2 said:
    I don't have it either, just a note saying the system doesn't work for tou type tariffs.
     this is the website, is there a separate app?
    I'm using the website https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/cheapenergyclub/ and it is definitely there for me.
  • I've tried the website and it's not there for me either... :/
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