Any Energy Providers which dont enforce smart meter

Spoonie_Turtle

TheElectricCow said:

MattMattMattUK said:

MultiFuelBurner said:

MattMattMattUK said:

Gerry1 said:

MattMattMattUK said:

In theory wrapping the comms hub in enough tin foil would block the signal, although it could still get out around the back, depending on the construction of the building and the direction of the network infrastructure. 

I doubt it.  My mobile phone will still ring if I put it in the (switched off) microwave oven, ditto in a Cadbury's chocolate tin.

If you turn on the microwave it will not ring though 

Foil will attenuate the signal, it is only low power so does not need to block much to stop it working, but a single layer would not be enough, multiple layers with some separation (paper between them) would be better, though a Faraday cage would solve things, though of course that would also be insane. 

This made me curious 

That could work depending on what it is made out of and the rest of the network (eg. it can still penetrate the wall).

Interestingly they also offer a similar product for wifi routers, I’m sure glad someone has finally found a way to stop all the radio waves leaking out of those damn things. 

I have seen reviews of that type of thing on Amazon, with people pleased to be blocking all that ~harmful radiation~ but complaining their wifi became rubbish

booneruk

MattMattMattUK said:

This made me curious 

That could work depending on what it is made out of and the rest of the network (eg. it can still penetrate the wall).

Absolute lunacy!  I'd love to have a read of some of those 235 ratings... ahh, Google thanks:

"Look no further to reduce EMF in the home, works great! Ian was very helpful too " - I wonder if this person also sits in the dark and runs away from radio waves, with light and radio also being electromagnetic energy of course. 

It's not universal praise in these reviews, though. "Not sure it works. smart meter display in kitchen still recieves info from meter?" (still 4/5 rating on that one though).

I've read about Wifi router Faraday cages too. Do these people want the electromagnetic radiation or not?!?!!!

I'm sure I'm often at risk of knocking myself out, with such force behind palm meeting face.

GingerTim

booneruk said:

MattMattMattUK said:

This made me curious 

That could work depending on what it is made out of and the rest of the network (eg. it can still penetrate the wall).

Absolute lunacy!  I'd love to have a read of some of those 235 ratings... ahh, Google thanks:

"Look no further to reduce EMF in the home, works great! Ian was very helpful too " - I wonder if this person also sits in the dark and runs away from radio waves, with light and radio also being electromagnetic energy of course. 

It's not universal praise in these reviews, though. "Not sure it works. smart meter display in kitchen still recieves info from meter?" (still 4/5 rating on that one though).

I've read about Wifi router Faraday cages too. Do these people want the electromagnetic radiation or not?!?!!!

I'm sure I'm often at risk of knocking myself out, with such force behind palm meeting face.

I find myself torn between thinking on the one hand 'this stuff is dangerous', to on the other thinking 'well, if you're going to make money rinsing the gullible and the conspiratorially-minded, then knock yourself out'.

MultiFuelBurner

Meanwhile somewhere out there

EssexHebridean

I presume the website selling the faraday cage things for the meters also has an outstanding range of tinfoil hats to suit all head shapes?! 

QrizB

EssexHebridean said:

I presume the website selling the faraday cage things for the meters also has an outstanding range of tinfoil hats to suit all head shapes?! 

I guess the gas meter bag could do double-duty in that regard.

Netexporter

A fool and their money are easily parted.

Phones4Chris

Newbie_John said:

What would be the purpose of it?

Smart not smart, you can still send your readings manually if that's what you wish?
Not liking that little device in the kitchen (IHD)? It is just a gadget - you can unplug it and then the meter runs like any other really, you can manually submit your readings.

Just been having a laugh reading through this thread, but surprised that no-one else has picked upon this one.

I don't know why @Newbie_John thinks the Smart Meter will doing anything different just because you unplug the IHD. The Smart meter will carry on doing whatever it normally does in a particular installation whether you unplug the IHD, put on a tin-foil hat, trampled the IHD underfoot or put it in the bin, any of which I personally would regard as being particularly stupid, but if you really don't want the (limited) information the iHD can give you, fine, unplug it and put it in a drawer. Your meter will continue to work as normal.

PS. If you do use the IHD for "cost" information, rather than just Energy (kWh) usage, then make sure your supplier has updated the METER with your current tariff.

Mauldor

Thanks for everyone's input, I have learned a lot since starting this thread. The bottom line is once the SMETS1 meter has been registered with the DCC, its a smart meter forever. I emailed all the suppliers and they misread what I had wrote thinking I was wanting the smart meter to work as one. 

Its interesting that when a person does not want smart meters, they are met with hostility as if they wear tin foil hats and such but in this world is about choice and it seems if you want the Elec / Gas supplied - you have to have the meter. 

I had already done all the things such as set my readings to monthly, provide the meter reading online about once a week which then shows me a bill. Of course the other option is a Pay as you go meter but im not sure I want to go down that path. Of course as I pay on receipt of Bill - i pay an extra 8%, that is madness. 

MultiFuelBurner

Mauldor said:

Thanks for everyone's input, I have learned a lot since starting this thread. The bottom line is once the SMETS1 meter has been registered with the DCC, its a smart meter forever. I emailed all the suppliers and they misread what I had wrote thinking I was wanting the smart meter to work as one. 

Its interesting that when a person does not want smart meters, they are met with hostility as if they wear tin foil hats and such but in this world is about choice and it seems if you want the Elec / Gas supplied - you have to have the meter. 

I had already done all the things such as set my readings to monthly, provide the meter reading online about once a week which then shows me a bill. Of course the other option is a Pay as you go meter but im not sure I want to go down that path. Of course as I pay on receipt of Bill - i pay an extra 8%, that is madness. 

I suspect the reason for any perceived reaction here regarding tin foil hats is because this forum is about money saving. The cheapest energy is through smart meters for many. So the two go hand in hand.

I suspect if the post was put on a non energy saving forum more focused on how to not have a smart meter then responses will likely be closer to what you want.

First and foremost this is a money saving forum so the bias will be towards that aim.