Private carpark fine

eeehhh123

GrannyKate said:

Which car park is it?

Its this one, titled sea palling car park.
I've tried ringing beach rock and reef bar, but weirdly both say 'this number cannot be recognised'.

fisherjim

I see they have called it an "offence" on their NTK that is a no no.

An "offence" is a breach of a law or rule; an illegal act, they are thus misrepresenting authority and should be reported to the BPA for this sanctionable threat.

They have sent you a speculative invoice not a fine.

You are dealing with chancers, and by the looks of it amateurs at that.

Don't let these dimwits wear you down.

eeehhh123

fisherjim said:

I see they have called it an "offence" on their NTK that is a no no.

An "offence" is a breach of a law or rule; an illegal act, they are thus misrepresenting authority and should be reported to the BPA for this sanctionable threat.

They have sent you a speculative invoice not a fine.

You are dealing with chancers, and by the looks of it amateurs at that.

Don't let these dimwits wear you down.

Thank you. I didnt know this.
Do I use this information in my 1st appeal?
Or would that then come into my POPLA appeal?

GrannyKate

I failed to find anything useful as to who might own the car park.  Beach Rock leisure seem to have been dissolved in 2012 and no idea who owns that complex now.  Hard to tell if  the car park you used is part of that complex or separate. 

Coupon-mad

eeehhh123 said:

fisherjim said:

I see they have called it an "offence" on their NTK that is a no no.

An "offence" is a breach of a law or rule; an illegal act, they are thus misrepresenting authority and should be reported to the BPA for this sanctionable threat.

They have sent you a speculative invoice not a fine.

You are dealing with chancers, and by the looks of it amateurs at that.

Don't let these dimwits wear you down.

Thank you. I didnt know this.
Do I use this information in my 1st appeal?
Or would that then come into my POPLA appeal?

Save it for POPLA.  Just the template appeal.

fisherjim

I think these are a two bit operator not very prolific, I would personally report the misrepresentation of authority in their NTK to the BPA it might frighten them, why not they like frightening their targets.

The relevent section of the BPA COP is:

14. Misrepresentation of Authority

Umkomaas

The NtK is a bit of a templated mess. Notwithstanding what @fisherjim says above, a further small addition to a POPLA appeal is that the NtK fails to state to whom the parking charge is to be paid viz ' ..... the Parking Charge is now payable to (Operator) as the Creditor'.  Not a showstopper in its own right, but it's far from clear.  Every little helps!

eeehhh123

Coupon-mad said:

eeehhh123 said:

fisherjim said:

I see they have called it an "offence" on their NTK that is a no no.

An "offence" is a breach of a law or rule; an illegal act, they are thus misrepresenting authority and should be reported to the BPA for this sanctionable threat.

They have sent you a speculative invoice not a fine.

You are dealing with chancers, and by the looks of it amateurs at that.

Don't let these dimwits wear you down.

Thank you. I didnt know this.
Do I use this information in my 1st appeal?
Or would that then come into my POPLA appeal?

Save it for POPLA.  Just the template appeal.

Thank you. I'm going to send it now. Do I literally copy and paste the template and then add the number at the top?
Do I need to include 'to whom it may concern,'
And do I include their address at the top?
How do I sign it off at the end?

Coupon-mad

Do I need to include 'to whom it may concern,'

No-one starts communications like that.  And you just put it in as the PCN tells you (obviously not ticking driver). .

eeehhh123

Coupon-mad said:

Do I need to include 'to whom it may concern,'

No-one starts communications like that.  And you just put it in as the PCN tells you (obviously not ticking driver). .

I am unsure which one to tick for 'Reason', could you help please?
Options are:
I have a valid ticket/permit for the car parl/site which was clearly on display.
My vehicle is permitted to park and is on a vehicle exemptions list
I had a Pay & Display ticket but may have entered the wrong or incomplete vehicle registration number
My vehicle was not in the car park at the time the contravention occured
I did not park for the stated time
I was authorised to park
I did not receive the Charge Notice on my vehicle
There was no signage at the car park/location indicating any restrictions
I was not aware that I had incurred a Charge Notice.



Thank you