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Group thread: Heathrow Gatwick Manchester & other Airport drop-off PCNs - easy: how to appeal & win

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  • Hi there, Quite new to the forum and first time appealing for my dad when he dropped off family at Heathrow.
    I understand that the template still works but I'm curious as to which "Reason" to choose.
    I was thinking its the "others". and if so (I don't know if its new) but they still ask for details. I presume you fill that in and its good to go?

    Cheers, you'll be helping me save this money for Christmas instead
     

  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 157,751 Forumite
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    Yes just OTHER.   :)
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
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  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 44,056 Forumite
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    Make sure that it goes in your father’s name as the registered keeper - not your name.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

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  • Thank you for this thread. Appeal in per 1st page and will confirm successful appeal 👍
  • Your appeal for Parking Charge (PC) XXXXXXXXX has been submitted.

    The case has been placed on hold and will not progress until a decision has been made. We will notify you of our decision by post or by email (Please check spam or junk folders). Do not assume that your appeal has been successful if you have not received a response.

    If you were eligible for payment at the discounted rate when you submitted your appeal, you will normally be offered a further chance to pay at this rate if your appeal is rejected.

    Please note: Online appeals can be made within 28 days from the date of issue of a Parking Charge (PC). Anything received after this date is considered as correspondence on the case and may not be accepted as an appeal against the Parking Charge (PC).


  • Happy to confirm still working.  Thanks to the board for the efforts in putting the process together.
  • Well done. However, you should also send the following complaint to POPLA at info@popla.co.uk and CC enquiries@flexibleresolutionservices.co.uk; info@trustalliancegroup.org:

    Subject: Formal Complaint – Incoherent and Unprofessional “Appeal Withdrawn” Correspondence

    Dear POPLA Team,

    I am writing to raise a formal complaint about the extraordinarily poor standard of the template email issued when an operator cancels a Parking Charge Notice before an appeal is assessed. The communication I received is so lacking in clarity, logic, and basic literacy that it calls into question the intellectual capability and procedural understanding of the person or team responsible for drafting it.

    The phrase “the operator has withdrawn your appeal” is, on its face, nonsensical. An operator cannot withdraw an appellant’s submission, and no competent writer would use wording that implies otherwise. The fact that this has been adopted as standard text suggests that whoever authored it did not understand the process they were meant to be describing, or lacked the linguistic ability to articulate it accurately. Either possibility is deeply concerning.

    The rest of the letter is equally inelegant. It is clumsily structured, contradictory in places, and written in such a muddled fashion that it reads like a hastily assembled paragraph from someone intellectually out of their depth. Basic sequencing, grammatical consistency, and coherence are all missing. The message lurches between confused hypotheticals and ill-fitting explanations, none of which reflect how the process actually works.

    It is not merely embarrassing; it is an indictment of the level of internal oversight within POPLA. Any halfway competent professional would have sent this back for correction. Instead, it has been allowed to stand as an official communication from an organisation that claims to assess evidence, interpret procedures, and apply reasoning in a quasi-judicial setting.

    If the standard of written communication is this poor, it raises a legitimate question: how can the public have confidence that POPLA is capable of the analytical, evidential, and reasoning-based work expected of an appeals service? A body that cannot draft a coherent template letter cannot reasonably be assumed to possess the competence required to evaluate appeals with fairness and intellectual rigour.

    I request confirmation that this complaint will be logged and reviewed, and I expect a response addressing:

    1. How this wording was approved;

    2. Whether POPLA acknowledges that the current text is inaccurate, misleading, and grammatically deficient; and

    3. What steps will be taken to correct the template and improve internal quality control.

    I look forward to your prompt and considered response.

    Yours sincerely,

    [Name]

    Let us know their response.

  • amz1909
    amz1909 Posts: 25 Forumite
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    edited 12 December 2025 at 1:12PM
    Missed paying the drop off charge at heathrow and got the notice.. Submitting the below template from page 1  as it is : 
    Is it ok please?  :) 
    Edit : Appeal as keeper -- Is there an option to select on the appeal form ? Or is it the write up as below. 
     I selected "other" in the first drop down .

    This is an appeal by the registered keeper - No driver details will be given. Please do not bother with your known fishing expedition in an attempt to get driver details to try and get around the fact there is no keeper liability (and never can be under POFA).

    Due to this being airport land you will be well aware there is no keeper liability due to the byelaws in force and the fact this is not relevant land.

    As there is no keeper liability then liability cannot flow from the driver to the keeper and thus is an auto win @ POPLA. Please therefore cancel the notice or issue a POPLA code where you will auto withdraw

    If you waste your time asking for driver details this will be ignored and you will still lose at POPLA if you dont cancel the PCN

    So let's save my time and yours and cancel this PCN you simply cannot win this (and you know it).
  • Gatwick airport increasing drop off charges from £7 to £10 from January 2026

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0kdd71lxnvo.amp

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