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Group thread: Heathrow Gatwick Manchester & other Airport drop-off PCNs - easy: how to appeal & win

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  • Switcher_Sam
    Switcher_Sam Posts: 46 Forumite
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    Please show a picture of the PCN offering £25 as the discount. Interesting.

    Here is "My" PCN following transfer of liability and also the cancellation letter - both mention that the £95 is initially discounted to £25




  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 22 January at 1:33PM
    Please show a picture of the PCN offering £25 as the discount. Interesting.
    Here is "My" PCN following transfer of liability and also the cancellation letter - both mention that the £95 is initially discounted to £25




    Interesting. £25 isn't a rip off!

    IMHO, a discount that low is reasonable (e.g. having forgotten to pay the drop off fee, paying £15-£25 to end the matter is an option! It should be on offer with all Airport drop off PCNs.

    Most are an extortionate £100 (reduced to £60) rip off. A 13 January 2026 Westminster Hall debate (referenced in 
    Hansard and Parallel Parliament) highlighted growing criticism of airport "kiss and fly" drop-off charges, which are increasingly seen as excessive, hidden profit drivers rather than just congestion management tools.

    Whilst the Government might struggle to dictate actual drop off fees because these are core 'prices', PCNs for alleged breach of contract are not. And the MHCLG is about to decide the levels of those.


    I think the MHCLG should NOW (in the first iteration of the Code) set two different discount rates and give the Scrutiny Board the power to bring in other 'minor oversight' contraventions into a lower rate discount bracket as their regulatory knowledge and evidence bank grows, after the statutory Code is in force.

    That way, it's a wake up call and not punitive as long as the MHCLG also corrects the error of discounts only being offered for 14 days which is far too short for postal PCNs and doesn't match LA & TFL postal PCN timelines which offer discounts for '21 days from service'.

    14 days is only for windscreen PCNs but not in private parking 'cowboy' cloud cuckoo land!

    Similarly, someone from Brighton got a £100 PCN from NCP in 2023 for daring to use the drop off zone at Gatwick Airport:
    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/driver-uses-chatgpt-ai-100-29295189.amp

    He got it reduced down to the early discount of £15 even though his appeal was late. Not bad.

    But NCP have since abandoned the £15 discount and quadrupled it to £60 for no justification whatsoever.

    The lower PCN discount examples (£15-£25)  show that a regime can easily operate at a lower level. Proves that £50 discounted to £25 (or even lower: how about £40/£20) is sustainable.

    MHCLG what say you? If the PCN level isn't to be changed because you are scared of Judicial Review, instead set two levels of discount.

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  • hirersezn
    hirersezn Posts: 93 Forumite
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    This may be a first, NCP gatwick rejected my appeal and provide code for POPLA.

    Looks like Times24 UK Limited is handling my appeal, so have they contracted out this work?

  • ChirpyChicken
    ChirpyChicken Posts: 2,880 Forumite
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    They are the same company

    Please post up the letter. I assume you select keeper in the drop down box ?

    Easy win at popla

    Appeal as keeper only to popla and only on the point of no keeper liability due to airport byelaws etc and the notice being non pofa. They will withdra

  • Coupon-mad
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    Yes - do tgd above - you can't lose. They are hoping you won't bother with POPLA.

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