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Autumn-Winter Rise in Costs.

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Dandytf
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edited 11 November 2023 at 9:24AM in Energy
Planning Calculations once I return home today.
I rec' unusually High Rise in Sept-Oct' SP Eco7 bill.
p.s. hopefully this isn't due t DQ Storage heater which only needs an hour or two overnight, with some fan to release daily.

=216kwh+ Day Rate

=561kwh+ Night Rate

=SP had recently recommended I reduce my DD to 142 approx, until this latest shock bill.

This bill total was 199 approx!

Is this normal as I don't recall ever needing to pay close to 200 per month Electric Only.


thNKS

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  • ArbitraryRandom
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    edited 11 November 2023 at 9:30AM
    First question would be where are you getting the numbers from (are you taking them directly from your meter)? 

    Second is what was your usage on your last bill/is this bill and the last bill based on your readings or estimated?

    Third, how do you heat your water and are you sure it's not been accidentally turned on/have you stayed up until night rate clicks on to check what's actually drawing power?  

    An increase this month from last month might not be unexpected (depending on how much of an increase) given you'll be using more heating this month - so last question, what type of storage heaters do you have and are they the kind that automatically adjust the amount of power they draw for the weather? 
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  • Dandytf
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    edited 11 November 2023 at 9:34AM
    1. from SP PDF nice Adobe Bills
    2. I'll post later though my posted increase was from 2 bills
    06/09-07/10
    08/10-09/11
    3. Eco 7 Water is Always kept on from Kitchen Timer as it only heats up during Eco7 times if req.

    thanks
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  • Dandytf
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    edited 11 November 2023 at 9:39AM
    I wonder if this Is DQ related as I had addditional hours programmed to heat up pre Autumn even if room temp was +18c.
    Maybe I was too late removing these hours until Clocks changed.
    It could have meant I was being charged peak rate overnight.
    It could explain over 500kwh extra night rate.

    thanks
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  • born_again
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    edited 11 November 2023 at 10:03AM
    Dandytf said:
    1. from SP PDF nice Adobe Bills
    2. I'll post later though my posted increase was from 2 bills
    06/09-07/10
    08/10-09/11
    3. Eco 7 Water is Always kept on from Kitchen Timer as it only heats up during Eco7 times if req.

    thanks
    Smart meter, manual read or estimates?

    As you have a EV, does this also include charging?
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  • Dandytf said:
    1. from SP PDF nice Adobe Bills

    As well as above, can you check your actual meter and see if the numbers match? 

    If you're not sure how to switch between rates, if you can take a picture or tell us what kind of meter it is we should be able to help. 
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  • molerat
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    edited 11 November 2023 at 11:54AM
    Our gas use in October was above average due to the temperatures, double September in fact.  We went into full winter mode in 2nd week where it is not usually until the last week / first week in November.
  • Dandytf
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    Dandytf said:
    1. from SP PDF nice Adobe Bills
    2. I'll post later though my posted increase was from 2 bills
    06/09-07/10
    08/10-09/11
    3. Eco 7 Water is Always kept on from Kitchen Timer as it only heats up during Eco7 times if req.

    thanks
    Smart meter, manual read or estimates?

    As you have a EV, does this also include charging?
    Pdf's are actual manual entered reads from Meter (which feeds Smart ihd)
    EV not home charged, public only.

    thanks
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  • Dandytf
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    molerat said:
    Our gas use in October was above average due to the temperatures, double September in fact.  We went into full winter mode in 2nd week where it is not usually until the last week / first week in November.
    molerat said:
    Our gas use in October was above average due to the temperatures, double September in fact.  We went into full winter mode in 2nd week where it is not usually until the last week / first week in November.
    Thanks though I'm electric only, I have done quick Smart IHD view today which is Estimating 67 pounds used 11 of 30 Nov days.
    If this is to be decent Smart Estimate then maybe 199 is correct.

    I was kind of Spoiled during Summer when trying some Temps for a few days for DQ Install.
    though I never Estimated 199.
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  • Dandytf
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    edited 11 November 2023 at 12:05PM
    from IHD today I've used just over 16kwh -costing 4pounds.
    This would have been since 23:30 10/11 as clocks went back.
    Maybe my recent SP Tariff change isn't suitable when I changed from SVR to Aug '24 Flexi Tariff.
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  • QrizB
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    edited 11 November 2023 at 12:11PM
    Dandytf said:
    Is this normal as I don't recall ever needing to pay close to 200 per month Electric Only
    How much electricity - day and night - did you use in the same period last year?
    What temperature are your DQ SHs set to?
    Dandytf said:
    216kwh+ Day Rate, 561kwh+ Night Rate

    This bill total was 199 approx!

    Allowing for £15 of standing charge, that's an average of 23.7p/kWh, which is in the right sort of ballpark for E7 where you're using 2x as much at night as day.

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