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Surely you know the answer to that by now Sam, you ask every other week for the last 2 years.
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It's a difficult one perhaps without an (easy) answer. Which is the reason for approaching the Oracle itself (the Agile forum none less). PS 1 1/2 yearsTelegraph Sam
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Telegraph_Sam said:What is the least worse way of guesstimating what switching to Agile might cost me, given my circs?
Or octopriceapp.com, but I'm less familiar with that. It shows a year's data for free though.
No real predictions available, you can only look backwards and then use that to do your best crystal ball impression.1 -
Tks. That confirms the direction of travel I was taking though I have yet to do a Compare.Telegraph Sam
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Spoonie_Turtle said:
No real predictions available, you can only look backwards and then use that to do your best crystal ball impression.I would disagree, you cannot input your past time of usage data ino a compare app when comparing Agile because your pattern of usage would change dramatically when on Agile to make best use of the cheap slots, you don't know what energy you're going to use when until the prices are released at 4pm the previous day. Our previous tarrif usage bears no resemblence at all to our current patterns.Yes it is a leap of faith jumping on to Agile & somewhat easier for folks coming from E7 as they are familiar with shifting usage but it's more a case of making it work rather than carrying on as normal.To make Agile work well requires extra effort & planning but once used to it can become a lot easier & less stressful.As for prices going forward the next few months should be pretty good , grid demand is dropping from winter highs, the sun will shine/ the winds will blow & the gas futures are falling .2 -
Effician said:Spoonie_Turtle said:
No real predictions available, you can only look backwards and then use that to do your best crystal ball impression.I would disagree, you cannot input your past time of usage data ino a compare app when comparing Agile because your pattern of usage would change dramatically when on Agile to make best use of the cheap slots, you don't know what energy you're going to use when until the prices are released at 4pm the previous day. Our previous tarrif usage bears no resemblence at all to our current patterns.Yes it is a leap of faith jumping on to Agile & somewhat easier for folks coming from E7 as they are familiar with shifting usage but it's more a case of making it work rather than carrying on as normal.To make Agile work well requires extra effort & planning but once used to it can become a lot easier & less stressful.As for prices going forward the next few months should be pretty good , grid demand is dropping from winter highs, the sun will shine/ the winds will blow & the gas futures are falling .What you can do is shift your usage patterns in advance to see what you are able to do. Here, for example, is my average usage profile over the past couple of weeks, doing as much as I can do to load-shift. In the past this would have been good enough for me to make a substantial saving on Agile, and while I was on Agile this usage pattern worked for me. Maybe moving forward perhaps it will again, but prior to today, I would have paid more on Agile than E7 or even a single rate.1 -
But you seem to be restricting your usage to be as low as you can manage so a fairly constant daily usage pattern i guess.I have no idea what i'll be using on any given day & can often save a weeks worth of energy intensive stuff to be done on a plunge or cheap day or even pull some things out of the hat like today when we don't really have much neccesity stuff to do but will save us money in the long run.Anyhow negative prices start at 10:30 so going to make myself busy.0
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Unless Agile is negative, I've kinda given up on chasing the best rates/times. We live a normal life of going to school/work and eating after school/in the evening
I've still saved £28 this month over April Fixed V2 so I'm happy (£47 Vs £75) But in openness 30th March was a negative day
I guess my point is that saving on Agile is achievable as long as your usage isn't all during peak morning/ evening3 -
Effician said:Spoonie_Turtle said:
No real predictions available, you can only look backwards and then use that to do your best crystal ball impression.I would disagree, you cannot input your past time of usage data ino a compare app when comparing Agile because your pattern of usage would change dramatically when on Agile to make best use of the cheap slots, you don't know what energy you're going to use when until the prices are released at 4pm the previous day.For me, I don't tend to change much, ok I may check the rates before putting the dishwasher on but that's about it. Dinner still gets cooked when I finish work at 5 etc.My only real change is to heat the thermal store with electric when its cheaper than gas, but thats a bonus rather than a norm so I'm more interested in my standard usage patern and compare is ideal for that.1 -
Effician said:But you seem to be restricting your usage to be as low as you can manage so a fairly constant daily usage pattern i guess.I have no idea what i'll be using on any given day & can often save a weeks worth of energy intensive stuff to be done on a plunge or cheap day or even pull some things out of the hat like today when we don't really have much neccesity stuff to do but will save us money in the long run.Anyhow negative prices start at 10:30 so going to make myself busy.Yes, I am using only the energy I need. I'll admit to having turned everything on during past price plunges or old-style Saving Session in-day adjustment periods in order to be paid for the consumption. However, I see it as a false economy to use paid-for energy wastefully in order to reduce an average price paid but increase the total cost.I am able to shift about 40% intra-day to the early morning hours and another 20% between days (mainly laundry and cooking) over the course of a week or so, which in the past would have paid dividends. But prior to today, we've had a run of particularly flat days.Looking at the morning auction for tomorrow, it looks like after today it is a return to something similar, prices getting down to about £60/MWh rather than the £70 of the last few days, so while I might have been tempted to switch from today, I suspect any savings will be given up through the week - unless I try switching for just today.1
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