Octopus Agile

EssexHebridean

northernstar007 said:

if your happy to pay them prices then carry on instead of taking a fix even for the month must have money to waste

You’re speaking for anyone in your circumstances though - so with your use, at the times you use it, and your set up including any batteries, Solar etc you have. For anyone op with a different set up circumstances it’s ludicrous to say that they “must have money to waste” as just a relatively swift read of the thread would have told you that it’s still working OK for some folk. Sweeping generalisations do usually leave the person uttering them in a great position, to be honest… 

northernstar007

when every slot give or take is above svr even during the night since jan, i give it a cpl of months to settle down and bit the bullet, then carry on paying well above svr 

EssexHebridean

As I said - that’s YOUR circumstances. Here, the overnight rates have still been below SVR, so had we have a battery which would have covered our use, we would almost certainly have stayed put on Agile as it would still have been cheaper for us! 

TroubledTarts

greenbee said:

I'm sticking too for now - Jan bill was 13.08p average. I'm expecting the next one to be higher, but I don't think I can get a really good feel for whether it's working until I have more data - and I moved in October, which probably isn't the best time for it. 

I'm sure there will gradually be more TOU tariffs to choose from, but it'll also get harder to work out what the best option is, as the load shifting makes comparison difficult. 

Jan bill was 13.08p kwh on Agile? Did you mean 23.08p?

I can can't get that work in my head glancing at the Jan Agile prices in detail.

greenbee

TroubledTarts said:

greenbee said:

I'm sticking too for now - Jan bill was 13.08p average. I'm expecting the next one to be higher, but I don't think I can get a really good feel for whether it's working until I have more data - and I moved in October, which probably isn't the best time for it. 

I'm sure there will gradually be more TOU tariffs to choose from, but it'll also get harder to work out what the best option is, as the load shifting makes comparison difficult. 

Jan bill was 13.08p kwh on Agile? Did you mean 23.08p?

I can can't get that work in my head glancing at the Jan Agile prices in detail.

Yep, 13.08p on average. My billing period runs 24th-23rd. I'm charging the battery and running the DW/WM/TD on the 3-4 cheapest hours each night, and using very little from the grid outside that. If there was anything below 6p/kWh during that period then I would have used more for slow cookers, hot water, and electric heating, which would have brought the average down. 

12th Jan - 10th Feb is an average of 19.60p/kWh

Effician

greenbee said:

TroubledTarts said:

greenbee said:

I'm sticking too for now - Jan bill was 13.08p average. I'm expecting the next one to be higher, but I don't think I can get a really good feel for whether it's working until I have more data - and I moved in October, which probably isn't the best time for it. 

I'm sure there will gradually be more TOU tariffs to choose from, but it'll also get harder to work out what the best option is, as the load shifting makes comparison difficult. 

Jan bill was 13.08p kwh on Agile? Did you mean 23.08p?

I can can't get that work in my head glancing at the Jan Agile prices in detail.

Yep, 13.08p on average. My billing period runs 24th-23rd. I'm charging the battery and running the DW/WM/TD on the 3-4 cheapest hours each night, and using very little from the grid outside that. If there was anything below 6p/kWh during that period then I would have used more for slow cookers, hot water, and electric heating, which would have brought the average down. 

12th Jan - 10th Feb is an average of 19.60p/kWh

Not surprised at your average during the christmas/new year period as lots of cheap slots in there , without batteries etc we did 16p on 173kWh for the 24th Dec to 23rd Jan  & i bet many others also did quite well .

teaselMay

I'm still up 60p on the month to today with agile despite 27p average unit price, because of the £1.50 difference over the month in standing charge. Still waiting for my most recent payment to show on my account (I'm just being paranoid because applying for a mortgage) but then I'm changing away, it's taking way too much head space at the moment for that level of saving and even that will disappear early next month anyway.

teaselMay

Changed to the loyal fix for both, I've messaged them on bluesky to ask for it to start straight away instead of next month

danco

My electricity bill does not include heating, as I live in a block of flats that has communal heating. And I don't cook a lot. Don't have special features like an EV, usage is about 7kWh a day. Obviously prices now are higher than they were in 2024, but as far as I can see they would still have to go a fair bit higher before the fixed Octopus is as good as Agile (2024 cost was £590 for 2340kWh). But I do se that my Agile pricing is VERY variable from month to month, last December and January I used almost the same amount of electricity but with about a 25% difference in cost, and I can compare other months where the one with greater usage has lower cost.

EssexHebridean

Remember that some of us who have jumped now might well jump back again when things settle down a bit (or more accurately, if things settle down a bit) thanks to the fix having no exit fees. Whether Agile is still working out cheaper for people depends on their use profile - and also whether they are long-termers who are comparing use over a year, or more recent adopters like we were, comparing over just a few months. I have certainly still got the comparison window up to keep an eye on things, and if the prices start tracking downwards again I'll likely hop back on for another stint. 

It's like teaselMay said - right now, too much headspace required to make it even break even - and in fact for February even loadshifting everything we reasonably could still left us out of pocket over SVR. If I was willing to wait until 9pm to cook my tea every night, let washing pile up until we have run out of clothes, or handwash dishes to avoid using the DW then we could probably still have been just about breaking even - but I'm not. Quality of life trumps that every time.