Octopus Agile

EssexHebridean

I’m with TM - it is fascinating!

greenbee

teaselMay said:

cheers, it's odd because it is appearing in my phone app - but that links to the home mini thing and so collected the data separately too.

edit. no it's not appearing in the app, on the week view, it's just changed the scale to wednesday thursday saturday

I've just checked, and I'm missing Friday too. 

Chrysalis

teaselMay said:

When there's a day missing in the smart meter data does it get pulled retrospectively at some point? I've not seen it happen before since joining Octopus, but Saturday's electricity data has appeared in my online data whilst Friday's is still missing. As it was a cheaper day and I was away until tea time it'd be a shame if that use, small as it was, was attributed to a different day. Strangely the gas data for the same day was available last night.

All my historical data as far as I know had no gaps on Octopus. 

Scot_39

QrizB said:

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Spoonie_Turtle said:

Winds forecast to be 80-100+ mph in parts of Scotland, NI and Isle of Man, and 60-80mph in the wider amber warning areas, so while the rest of Britain's wind turbines might be doing okay they'll definitely be needing to be turned off in some areas!

I'll let the thread know how things go with my Ayrshire wind farm!

The storm has blown through here, calm again now (Southern electricity region).

Ripple in Ayrshire was forecasting a shutdown from about 0800-1400 but the live data shows it's still generating now, in 56mph winds. Has been throttled back to about 60% of nominal output. Will be interesting to see how it goes.

Edit: still generating at 1000, approx 30% of nominal output.

Edit: and still generating at 1130, at 20%.

Edit: mostly abated at 1220, only 5%.

Edit: fully abated (zero output) for m about 1230?

Looking at the times - it certainly seems possible that was blade lockdown - for high winds - if not a little later than I would have expected - but the Telegraph link sadly also points out another killer - the impact of grid capacity and constraints.

Sorry, meant to post an update here.

Ripple have themselves reported that they weren't abated at any time. The grid always had capacity.

What happened during Eowyn was the winds were always below the max sustained speed for Kirk Hill - 75mph over 10 mins - but turbulence caused vibration, which in turn caused individual turbines to shut down. The control system allowed them to self-restart but repeated shutdowns led to the control systems deciding there might be a problem with the turbine and require a manual restart.

It took a little while for the site operators to respond, check each turbine and restart them. This is why the outage was seen later than you would expect if you were just looking at peak wind speeds.

This first chart is wind speed:

And this one is output (scaled to my own Ripple share):

You can see output held up quite well through the height of the storm, but collapsed later once all the individual turbines shut down awaiting a manual restart.

My aapologies to everyone else, this isn't directly Agile-related!

Thanks - very informative / useful.

teaselMay

Octopus' contact form on Bluesky works well, I was emailed within the hour. He'd asked for the missing data to be pulled down and it's appeared now - I don't know whether it would have if he hadn't asked mind. He did ask me to let him know if it didn't appear within 48 hours.

MikeyPGT

teaselMay said:

I've just tested out their new Bluesky contact form, more to test it as a means of contacting them than because I'm worried about the missing data. Because I'm deaf I've kept my Twitter account so that I can use it for talking to companies, but if Bluesky works just as well for that I can bin Twitter completely

I had a quick response to a general query about the possibility of a low standing charge tariff by just commenting on their Bluesky page - hopefully they will do the decent thing and ditch Twitter as their SM of choice. 

wrf12345

"I had a quick response to a general query about the possibility of a low standing charge tariff"

and the response was, please?

Pat38493

As far as I understand, the data gets pulled from the meter into some kind of central repository which is available to all energy suppliers.  For various complicated historical reasons, this is done in several different ways depending on how old your meter is, and where you live.

Octopus then does a mass pull of the data into their systems.  If Octopus triggers this before your data is in the “cloud”, the data will be missing.   If this happens to me I usually wait a week or so and if it’s still missing then I ping Octopus (on Twitter!) and they usually fix it within a few hours.

bob2302

Pat38493 said:

As far as I understand, the data gets pulled from the meter into some kind of central repository which is available to all energy suppliers.  For various complicated historical reasons, this is done in several different ways depending on how old your meter is, and where you live.

Octopus then does a mass pull of the data into their systems.  If Octopus triggers this before your data is in the “cloud”, the data will be missing.   If this happens to me I usually wait a week or so and if it’s still missing then I ping Octopus (on Twitter!) and they usually fix it within a few hours.

DCC doesn't cache anything, it  standardizes secure access to your hub..

Pat38493

bob2302 said:

Pat38493 said:

As far as I understand, the data gets pulled from the meter into some kind of central repository which is available to all energy suppliers.  For various complicated historical reasons, this is done in several different ways depending on how old your meter is, and where you live.

Octopus then does a mass pull of the data into their systems.  If Octopus triggers this before your data is in the “cloud”, the data will be missing.   If this happens to me I usually wait a week or so and if it’s still missing then I ping Octopus (on Twitter!) and they usually fix it within a few hours.

DCC doesn't cache anything, it just there to standardize secure access to your hub..

OK sorry this was not my understanding.  So you are saying that if a day is missing, it’s because my individual comms hub decided not to respond when Ocotpus asked for the data?  I am confused because I have an app called Bright which also shows my meter data, and sometimes it shows the data, even when it’s missing on Octopus.