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Bendo

You will have to ask them to pull it, their daily pull only pulls the previous day and for some reason, isn't smart enough to retry missing days next time.

teaselMay

cheers, it's odd because it is appearing in my phone app - but that links to the home mini thing and so collected the data separately too.

edit. no it's not appearing in the app, on the week view, it's just changed the scale to wednesday thursday saturday

Newbie_John

Bendo said:

You will have to ask them to pull it, their daily pull only pulls the previous day and for some reason, isn't smart enough to retry missing days next time.

I've had sometimes missing days, or gaps and it fixed itself within a week or two.
So I'd wait two weeks and if you still have gaps contact them. 
Apparently smart meter can store 1 year data so no rush needed.

teaselMay

I've just tested out their new Bluesky contact form, more to test it as a means of contacting them than because I'm worried about the missing data. Because I'm deaf I've kept my Twitter account so that I can use it for talking to companies, but if Bluesky works just as well for that I can bin Twitter completely

Slinky

Newbie_John said:

Bendo said:

You will have to ask them to pull it, their daily pull only pulls the previous day and for some reason, isn't smart enough to retry missing days next time.

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So I'd wait two weeks and if you still have gaps contact them. 
Apparently smart meter can store 1 year data so no rush needed.

Depends when your billing date is though. If you're due a bill soon, contact them sooner rather than later otherwise you'll get an averaged bill.

EssexHebridean

I was missing some data a while ago and it just gradually got pulled over the following few weeks and populated the relevant days. That was before I was on Agile though so no idea how that might complicate billing.

Scot_39

QrizB said:

QrizB said:

Spoonie_Turtle said:

Winds forecast to be 80-100+ mph in parts of Scotland, NI and Isle of Man, and 60-80mph in the wider amber warning areas, so while the rest of Britain's wind turbines might be doing okay they'll definitely be needing to be turned off in some areas!

I'll let the thread know how things go with my Ayrshire wind farm!

The storm has blown through here, calm again now (Southern electricity region).

Ripple in Ayrshire was forecasting a shutdown from about 0800-1400 but the live data shows it's still generating now, in 56mph winds. Has been throttled back to about 60% of nominal output. Will be interesting to see how it goes.

Edit: still generating at 1000, approx 30% of nominal output.

Edit: and still generating at 1130, at 20%.

Edit: mostly abated at 1220, only 5%.

Edit: fully abated (zero output) for m about 1230?

Looking at the times - it certainly seems possible that was blade lockdown - for high winds - if not a little later than I would have expected - but the Telegraph link sadly also points out another killer - the impact of grid capacity and constraints.

And Scotland has more than double its required generation capacity - on a good wind day - due to a far higher density of onshore and then offshore farms - with a lot more to come from recent license rounds.

Hence EGL1 and 2 (final revised cost plans for EGL1 @c£2.5bn and the longer EGL2 (£4.3bn) approved by Ofgem late 2024 ) - like WGL in past (which I believe runs from Hunterston / W Kilbride area in North Ayrshire to N Wales iirc) - being added to get some more of it south.  

With 2 further HVDC links - EGL3 (Peterhead, Aberdeenshire to Lincolnshire ?) and EGL4 (near Kinghorn, Fife ? to Lincolnshire ??) both adding 2GW more each - in earlier stages of planning.

https://www.nationalgrid.com/the-great-grid-upgrade/eastern-green-link-3-and-4

But both those also likely to be outpaced by new FOW wind as far north as Shetland - itself needing a new 600MW HVDC link to mainland.

teaselMay

EssexHebridean said:

I was missing some data a while ago and it just gradually got pulled over the following few weeks and populated the relevant days. That was before I was on Agile though so no idea how that might complicate billing.

It'll be interesting to see what they say, it is only one day and in the scheme of things doesn't matter, but odd that it's the first time I've noticed one missing in 10 months. With Eon it was 50 50 and often not even that good whether I could see a day's data - and no chance of half hourly despite the settings being half hourly.

QrizB

Scot_39 said:

QrizB said:

QrizB said:

Spoonie_Turtle said:

Winds forecast to be 80-100+ mph in parts of Scotland, NI and Isle of Man, and 60-80mph in the wider amber warning areas, so while the rest of Britain's wind turbines might be doing okay they'll definitely be needing to be turned off in some areas!

I'll let the thread know how things go with my Ayrshire wind farm!

The storm has blown through here, calm again now (Southern electricity region).

Ripple in Ayrshire was forecasting a shutdown from about 0800-1400 but the live data shows it's still generating now, in 56mph winds. Has been throttled back to about 60% of nominal output. Will be interesting to see how it goes.

Edit: still generating at 1000, approx 30% of nominal output.

Edit: and still generating at 1130, at 20%.

Edit: mostly abated at 1220, only 5%.

Edit: fully abated (zero output) for m about 1230?

Looking at the times - it certainly seems possible that was blade lockdown - for high winds - if not a little later than I would have expected - but the Telegraph link sadly also points out another killer - the impact of grid capacity and constraints.

Sorry, meant to post an update here.

Ripple have themselves reported that they weren't abated at any time. The grid always had capacity.

What happened during Eowyn was the winds were always below the max sustained speed for Kirk Hill - 75mph over 10 mins - but turbulence caused vibration, which in turn caused individual turbines to shut down. The control system allowed them to self-restart but repeated shutdowns led to the control systems deciding there might be a problem with the turbine and require a manual restart.

It took a little while for the site operators to respond, check each turbine and restart them. This is why the outage was seen later than you would expect if you were just looking at peak wind speeds.

This first chart is wind speed:

And this one is output (scaled to my own Ripple share):

You can see output held up quite well through the height of the storm, but collapsed later once all the individual turbines shut down awaiting a manual restart.

My aapologies to everyone else, this isn't directly Agile-related!

teaselMay

QrizB said:

My aapologies to everyone else, this isn't directly Agile-related!

It's fascinating though!

We weren't in the worst of the storm but it did seem a particularly gusty with 50 mph between gust speed and average, rather than sustained wind storm, I can imagine that causing problems. Even after it had died down it was pretty unpleasant in a high sided van