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Hi,

I saw a letter from NCP for London gatwick dropped off, I went abroad on the 10th this month didn’t receive any letter before then  I came back on the 20th that’s when I saw the letter. I tried to appeal it using the newbies temple but it’s not coming up at all. The date of the incident was on the end of august last year and the photo shows me driving lol. What’s the best way to deal with this
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  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 151,220 Forumite
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    edited 23 January 2023 at 3:53PM
    Respond once, saying the signage at Gatwick is appalling and you've added your case to complaint ref BPA-032489.

    Add this:

    I am aware that Sara Roberts, Head of AOS at the BPA is already investigating a formal complaint about your sneaky little set up at Gatwick Airport, which breaches the BPA CoP regarding lack of grace periods, methods of payment if the unknown £5 and signage (if seen by a driver) that only refers to £5 not £100.  No contract was formed.


    Also complain to Gatwick Airport.  They can normally get it reduced to £15.

    And email Sara Roberts quoting the above BPA complaint ref:

    sara.r@britishparking.co.uk

    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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  • Mouse007
    Mouse007 Posts: 1,062 Forumite
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    From CM's reply you can be confident this one is well know here. Search Gatwick drop off sort by newest first, lots of them.

    BBC WatchDog “if you are struggling with an unfair parking charge do get in touch”


    Please email your PCN story to watchdog@bbc.co.uk they want to hear about it.
    Please then tell us here that you have done so.

  • Hass11
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    Respond once, saying the signage at Gatwick is appalling and you've added your case to complaint ref BPA-032489.

    Add this:

    I am aware that Sara Roberts, Head of AOS at the BPA is already investigating a formal complaint about your sneaky little set up at Gatwick Airport, which breaches the BPA CoP regarding lack of grace periods, methods of payment if the unknown £5 and signage (if seen by a driver) that only refers to £5 not £100.  No contract was formed.


    Also complain to Gatwick Airport.  They can normally get it reduced to £15.

    And email Sara Roberts quoting the above BPA complaint ref:

    sara.r@britishparking.co.uk

    Do not deny driving in your case but take issue with the appalling lack of prominent £100 signage.

    Thank you, what shall I say to GATWICK Airport? Is there any email address for it.
  • Hass11
    Hass11 Posts: 71 Forumite
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    Respond once, saying the signage at Gatwick is appalling and you've added your case to complaint ref BPA-032489.

    Add this:

    I am aware that Sara Roberts, Head of AOS at the BPA is already investigating a formal complaint about your sneaky little set up at Gatwick Airport, which breaches the BPA CoP regarding lack of grace periods, methods of payment if the unknown £5 and signage (if seen by a driver) that only refers to £5 not £100.  No contract was formed.


    Also complain to Gatwick Airport.  They can normally get it reduced to £15.

    And email Sara Roberts quoting the above BPA complaint ref:

    sara.r@britishparking.co.uk

    Do not deny driving in your case but take issue with the appalling lack of prominent £100 signage.

    Shall I respond to sara.r@britishparking.co.uk or NCP adding sara.r@britishparking.co.uk in? 
  • Hass11
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    I don’t know how to reply to them, I can’t submit representation. 
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 151,220 Forumite
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    Respond separately.

    Search the forum and read other recent Gatwick NCP cases and you'll find what others did.
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  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 21 January 2023 at 7:29PM
    We know.  You are too late to appeal - this is a reminder - which is why I didn't tell you to appeal.

    I said 'respond once' and complain x 2.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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  • Hass11
    Hass11 Posts: 71 Forumite
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    Respond separately.

    Search the forum and read other recent Gatwick NCP cases and you'll find what others did.
    Respond separately.

    Search the forum and read other recent Gatwick NCP cases and you'll find what others did.
    I’m planing to email them this, what do you think

    Appeal against Parking Charge Notice (PCN) no. LGXXXXXX


    I dispute your 'parking charge', as the registered keeper of the vehicle. I deny any liability or contractual agreement and I will be making a complaint about your conduct to your client landowner, Gatwick Airport Ltd, as well as to the local MP.


    I contest and appeal this ‘parking charge’, on the grounds that:


    The drop off area appears to be not relevant land as defined by paragraph 3 of Schedule 4 of The Protection Of Freedoms Act 2012, as an Airport and being subject to byelaws. NCP cannot, therefore transfer liability for the alleged charge from the driver at the time to me, the keeper.

    and

    NCP have failed to comply with Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012; the issue date of your PCN was 107 days later than the day after which the specified period of parking ended, and not within 14 days as required in paragraph 9 of the aforementioned Act. Therefore, keeper liability does not apply. There will be no admissions as to who was driving, and no assumptions can be drawn.


    There is no legal requirement for the registered keeper to name the driver at the time and I will not be doing so.


    Further to the above I am aware that Sara Roberts, Head of AOS at the BPA is already investigating a formal complaint ref:BPA-032489 about your set up at Gatwick Airport, which breaches the BPA CoP and in this instance your appalling signage and no method for people to actually pay before leaving if they do use the drop-off area.


    I would suggest that you cancel the PCN as you have precisely no hope with POPLA where the driver is unidentified and the breach of POFA noted above, I will complain to the BPA and to the DVLA for a possible breach of KADOE and I shall most certainly add my case to BPA-032489 too should you proceed.



    I do not expect to hear from you again, except to confirm that no further action will be taken on this matter and my personal details have been removed from your records

  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 21 January 2023 at 7:40PM
    No, it isn't an 'appeal'.  You are too late to appeal.

    Is your correct postal address on your logbook?
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
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  • KeithP
    KeithP Posts: 41,296 Forumite
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    You might want to add a sentence to your 'Further to the above...' paragraph.
    Maybe something like...
    A copy of this letter is also being sent to Sara Roberts to add to her ever increasing file on this matter.
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