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Co-operative Refer a Friend Switching Offer £125 (Nov 2022)

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  • pfpf
    pfpf Posts: 5,133 Forumite
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    i'm one who got the offer last time and was very tempted to move and reapply when it came back, wish i'd switched out straight away last time but didn't expect the offer back so quickly.
    i'll keep mine and switch the OH out for next time then at least i have a chance being able to refer someone.
  • bristolleedsfan
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    edited 10 February 2023 at 1:12PM
    soulsaver said:
    soulsaver said:
    WillPS said:
    AmityNeon said:
    soulsaver said:
    I've had a Co op ac for years.

    However I've now opened a new account with them and intend to do a switch in. I'm hoping to get a referral bonus even though I'm an existing customer as IMO the terms do not exclude this.

    I fully expect an argument from them, which equally I fully expect to win.

    Anybody else tried? Failed or succeeded? 
    There's an ongoing FOS case from when they refused to pay their previous incentive. If you hold a Co-op current account on or after the offer start date, they will not consider you a new customer even if you close the account before applying again. Their terms are vague and sloppy, hence the FOS involvement.

    I think @soulsaver seems to believe they're eligible despite already holding an account, which I think they're on a hiding to nothing on since it's pretty clear in their terms that these are excluded.

    I agree the case of closing any accounts and shortly after opening a new one is not adequately excluded as the terms are written. Frankly I'm not minded to try it on since the opportunity cost of not having an account to refer people to, even temporarily, is rather higher than the reward from proving a point via the FOS.
    Where does it say in the terms that you can't already be a customer?
    Crystal clear  "Recommended Friend "To qualify for this offer as an eligible new customer you must" .....
    It doesn't say those words in the terms. 


    https://www.co-operativebank.co.uk/assets/pdf/bank/currentaccounts/refer-a-friend-terms-and-conditions.pdf


  • soulsaver
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    It (still) doesn't say you have to be a new customer: It is telling you how to qualify. What they want to call that qualification is their prerogative. The words are telling how they define an 'eligibity'; calling it a 'new customer eligibility' doesn't change that.

    From the words. if you satisfy 1,2,3 & 4 - you're an 'eligible new customer' to them according to the terms, whether you've held an account before, during or not.

    If they meant - "You must be a new customer on or after the commencement date of this offer" that's what they should put. 

    And they've had a 2nd chance to clarify it at it and didn't choose to.
  • soulsaver
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    The exact words I referred to are that you have to be a new customer. It doesn't say that. Arguing that it does is the waste of time.

  • WillPS
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    Utterly meritless. Given you've benefitted to the tune of at least £750 from 'the other end' of this offer it blows my mind that you'd stick two fingers up to them in such a way.
  • Ed-1
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    IanManc said:
    soulsaver said:
    The exact words I referred to are that you have to be a new customer. It doesn't say that. Arguing that it does is the waste of time.


    The webpage outlining the offer which provides the link to the terms and conditions clearly states:

     "To be eligible for the offer, the person you’re referring must:
    • Not have a Co-operative Bank current account of any type.....".
    This means that the person referred must be a new customer. It says this immediately above the link to the terms which repeat that the offer applies to a new customer, and gives the conditions the new customer needs to adhere to in order to be eligible for the offer.

    The terms and conditions say that to take advantage of the offer you need to be a new customer, and then sets out what that new customer needs to do to get the offer. 

    Which part of "new customer" do you think means "existing customer"?

    The webpage and terms and conditions are explicitly clear and do not bear any interpretation that existing customers are new customers.

    First you denied that the words were in the terms and conditions at all when they clearly are, and now you appear to be saying that references to "new customer" don't mean "new customer".

    You cannot win this argument because the whole forum can see the webpage and the terms, and that they don't say what you are pretending they say. I really hope you take this to the Ombudsman because he could probably do with a laugh.
    It's clear from the webpage that a new customer can't have a Coop current account already. But what's not clear is whether someone who previously held a Coop current account at an earlier date now qualifies as a new customer, and whether there is a cut-off date of the start of the offer.
  • AmityNeon
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    edited 10 February 2023 at 4:20PM
    They will refuse to pay the incentive if you already hold a Co-op current account, final response/decision. This also applies if you held a Co-op current account on or after the offer start date and subsequently closed it before applying for a new current account.

    These are part of their 'behind-the-scenes' terms.

    Raise a complaint to the FOS.
    Hope you win.
    End of story.
  • Hi, I've recently referred a friend, they now have their Co-op current account up and running but are still waiting on their switch to complete. Could my friend safely start referring others or should they wait until their switch and our referral completes?

    There seems to be nothing in the 'Terms and Conditions' preventing them from doing now they have an account but I was wondering if they do whether it'd cause any issues with my/our referral.

    Thanks for any help, clarification.
  • AmityNeon
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    gilly107 said:
    Hi, I've recently referred a friend, they now have their Co-op current account up and running but are still waiting on their switch to complete. Could my friend safely start referring others or should they wait until their switch and our referral completes?

    There seems to be nothing in the 'Terms and Conditions' preventing them from doing now they have an account but I was wondering if they do whether it'd cause any issues with my/our referral.

    Thanks for any help, clarification.
    As long as the account is open, the holder can refer. Specifically, this means their account must be up and running before their referred friends apply.
  • scoey8
    scoey8 Posts: 111 Forumite
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    Does anyone know if it will be safe to switch and get the referral by switching from a Starling bank account that was only opened 2 weeks ago? Any potential pitfalls? Also do you need to input the card details of the bank you are switching from or just the sortcode and account number? Thanks 
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