How much longer will this bear market go on for?

masonic

masonic said:

Type_45 said:

"Blackstone Prepares A Record $50 Billion To Snap Up Real Estate During The Coming Crash"
They know what's coming.

A property crash is something that hasn't been talked about much, but the rising cost of living, the squeezing of margins on businesses, and rapidly rising interest rates, is likely to see repossession rates go up and activity in the residential and commercial property markets stifled.

It's happened again, released just a few hours later...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJjMz-iDTg8

Type_45

masonic said:

masonic said:

Type_45 said:

"Blackstone Prepares A Record $50 Billion To Snap Up Real Estate During The Coming Crash"
They know what's coming.

A property crash is something that hasn't been talked about much, but the rising cost of living, the squeezing of margins on businesses, and rapidly rising interest rates, is likely to see repossession rates go up and activity in the residential and commercial property markets stifled.

It's happened again, released just a few hours later...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJjMz-iDTg8

As alluded to in the video, people buying right now could be in negative equity for 10 years...

And who knows what will happen in that time, or what the world will look like in the 2030s...   I've seen some dystopian forecasts.

Albermarle

masonic said:

masonic said:

Type_45 said:

"Blackstone Prepares A Record $50 Billion To Snap Up Real Estate During The Coming Crash"
They know what's coming.

A property crash is something that hasn't been talked about much, but the rising cost of living, the squeezing of margins on businesses, and rapidly rising interest rates, is likely to see repossession rates go up and activity in the residential and commercial property markets stifled.

It's happened again, released just a few hours later...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJjMz-iDTg8

He is not though predicting an Armageddon in the housing market. A small reduction/ flat market for a couple of years would not be the end of the world, considering everything else happening.

Type_45

Albermarle said:

masonic said:

masonic said:

Type_45 said:

"Blackstone Prepares A Record $50 Billion To Snap Up Real Estate During The Coming Crash"
They know what's coming.

A property crash is something that hasn't been talked about much, but the rising cost of living, the squeezing of margins on businesses, and rapidly rising interest rates, is likely to see repossession rates go up and activity in the residential and commercial property markets stifled.

It's happened again, released just a few hours later...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJjMz-iDTg8

He is not though predicting an Armageddon in the housing market. A small reduction/ flat market for a couple of years would not be the end of the world, considering everything else happening.

Where in the video does he predict a "small reduction/flat market for a couple of years"?

Swipe

Type_45 said:

And who knows what will happen in that time, or what the world will look like in the 2030s...   I've seen some dystopian forecasts.

Hence your distorted version of the world. Maybe time to log off zerohedge for a bit?

Millyonare

Doubt the UK will see a housing crash. Everyone knows they just need to sit tight and their house price will rise due to a perceived shortage. People or companies will buy any dip.

wmb194

Type_45 said:

masonic said:

masonic said:

Type_45 said:

"Blackstone Prepares A Record $50 Billion To Snap Up Real Estate During The Coming Crash"
They know what's coming.

A property crash is something that hasn't been talked about much, but the rising cost of living, the squeezing of margins on businesses, and rapidly rising interest rates, is likely to see repossession rates go up and activity in the residential and commercial property markets stifled.

It's happened again, released just a few hours later...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJjMz-iDTg8

As alluded to in the video, people buying right now could be in negative equity for 10 years...

And who knows what will happen in that time, or what the world will look like in the 2030s...   I've seen some dystopian forecasts.

A lot of people who bought during the house price bubble of the late eighties were in negative equity well into the nineties. It wasn't the end of the world.

Sea_Shell

wmb194 said:

Type_45 said:

masonic said:

masonic said:

Type_45 said:

"Blackstone Prepares A Record $50 Billion To Snap Up Real Estate During The Coming Crash"
They know what's coming.

A property crash is something that hasn't been talked about much, but the rising cost of living, the squeezing of margins on businesses, and rapidly rising interest rates, is likely to see repossession rates go up and activity in the residential and commercial property markets stifled.

It's happened again, released just a few hours later...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJjMz-iDTg8

As alluded to in the video, people buying right now could be in negative equity for 10 years...

And who knows what will happen in that time, or what the world will look like in the 2030s...   I've seen some dystopian forecasts.

A lot of people who bought during the house price bubble of the late eighties were in negative equity well into the nineties. It wasn't the end of the world.

Maybe back then people were looking to buy a home (and stay in it, long term), not for a fast buck and to tart it up and flip it?!?

My parents bought in 1988, and they're still there!

We need to get away from the mindset that a property is an "investment" and that it is our HOME.    IF it rises in value, that's a bonus.   

However, negative equity will be a big problem for those that NEED to move (area for job etc), or once they come to re-mortgage.

wmb194

Sea_Shell said:

wmb194 said:

Type_45 said:

masonic said:

masonic said:

Type_45 said:

"Blackstone Prepares A Record $50 Billion To Snap Up Real Estate During The Coming Crash"
They know what's coming.

A property crash is something that hasn't been talked about much, but the rising cost of living, the squeezing of margins on businesses, and rapidly rising interest rates, is likely to see repossession rates go up and activity in the residential and commercial property markets stifled.

It's happened again, released just a few hours later...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJjMz-iDTg8

As alluded to in the video, people buying right now could be in negative equity for 10 years...

And who knows what will happen in that time, or what the world will look like in the 2030s...   I've seen some dystopian forecasts.

A lot of people who bought during the house price bubble of the late eighties were in negative equity well into the nineties. It wasn't the end of the world.

Maybe back then people were looking to buy a home (and stay in it, long term), not for a fast buck and to tart it up and flip it?!?

My parents bought in 1988, and they're still there!

We need to get away from the mindset that a property is an "investment" and that it is our HOME.    IF it rises in value, that's a bonus.   

However, negative equity will be a big problem for those that NEED to move (area for job etc), or once they come to re-mortgage.

Sea_Shell said:

wmb194 said:

Type_45 said:

masonic said:

masonic said:

Type_45 said:

"Blackstone Prepares A Record $50 Billion To Snap Up Real Estate During The Coming Crash"
They know what's coming.

A property crash is something that hasn't been talked about much, but the rising cost of living, the squeezing of margins on businesses, and rapidly rising interest rates, is likely to see repossession rates go up and activity in the residential and commercial property markets stifled.

It's happened again, released just a few hours later...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJjMz-iDTg8

As alluded to in the video, people buying right now could be in negative equity for 10 years...

And who knows what will happen in that time, or what the world will look like in the 2030s...   I've seen some dystopian forecasts.

A lot of people who bought during the house price bubble of the late eighties were in negative equity well into the nineties. It wasn't the end of the world.

Maybe back then people were looking to buy a home (and stay in it, long term), not for a fast buck and to tart it up and flip it?!?

My parents bought in 1988, and they're still there!

We need to get away from the mindset that a property is an "investment" and that it is our HOME.    IF it rises in value, that's a bonus.   

However, negative equity will be a big problem for those that NEED to move (area for job etc), or once they come to re-mortgage.

No, there were still plenty of flippers. Buying run down homes and doing them up for profit is nothing new. On the street I grew up on it happened at least a couple of times in the eighties that I remember.

adindas

Based on statistics bear market takes about 10-61 months.

When will it end ?

In my opinion the first one is to identify what has caused this bear market in the first instance. e.g  high inflation, possible recession, Supply chain problem, Semiconductor chip shortages. War in Ukraine. which also lead to grain/food, fuel supply shortages. Ukraine id one of the largest grain exporters, while Russia is one of the largest fuel exporters.

So until inflation is under control (e.g 2%), war in Ukraine is ended, supply chain problem back to normal, expect that the bear market might still continue.

As the bear market is a period of time, you  do not need to identify the perfect bottom a specific date to start investing. Start pounding in a smaller chunk in the area around the bottom will be enough. If you need a specific time you  might be late to the party.

Also doing DCA will normally outperform lump sump in the bear market based on research and common sense approach. Put your lump sum hard earning cash £100k (say) in one go; if you are very unlucky "you might" need to wait 20yr+ before you see a single penny profit. I have posted this graphics in this forum before.

The second one that might help is to look the experts "consensus". Look for general "consensus", not to rely on single or just a few opinions. Many of them could be found on media such as CNBC, Bloomberg, CNN finance, Yahoo finance, Fox Business, Forbes, etc.