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With Octopus? Here's how to get a decent fix for elec and gas (it's no longer Octopus SPOILER!!)

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  • Spies
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    kingkano said:
    razord said:
    Octopus changed the pricing for their Go Tariffs this morning... I wonder if Agile is next?


    Does that apply to customers already on it?  Or was there not a cap to that product?
    If its anything like last time, it'll be for people coming off previous Go tariffs or just joining new.
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  • MWT
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    edited 5 July 2022 at 4:04PM
    kingkano said:
    razord said:
    Octopus changed the pricing for their Go Tariffs this morning... I wonder if Agile is next?


    Does that apply to customers already on it?  Or was there not a cap to that product?
    It is a 12 month fixed tariff so no impact for those already on it.
    The new version has a 'July 2022' date in the name and will apply to new customers and renewals from here on...

  • CasualMFW
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    kingkano said:
    Alnat1 said:
    Copy the terms bit into an email and tell them you want Gas Tracker only
    I replied back to the person, seemed to be going to their direct email, not the hello@, and they confirmed this morning that they've switched just my gas to tracker.

    So, for anyone else struggling, persist and keep asking for what you want, and eventually, they do get it done.
    Had the same issue, will email again in the morning.
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  • kingkano
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    Looks like I switched just in time for it to peak lol. Electricity at 35p cap all day last couple of days and gas @ 10.99p today. 

    oh well, I suspect I'll be happy come October to see those rates, no doubt.
  • Mstty
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    kingkano said:
    Looks like I switched just in time for it to peak lol. Electricity at 35p cap all day last couple of days and gas @ 10.99p today. 

    oh well, I suspect I'll be happy come October to see those rates, no doubt.
    Yeah and most people use a small portion of their overall yearly energy usage this time of year so the cost difference is minimal
  • Mstty
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    This train is about to leave the station based on recent Octopus tweets.

    Grab Agile before it becomes Agile V2 and Tracker v3 before it becomes tracker v4

    I am extremely disappointed neither of these made it in the following "Is it worth it fixes" by Martin Lewis and his team. Being as his team read this forum I have to question why it hasn't been included for the past month!

    https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/utilities/-are-there-any-cheap--fixed-energy-deals-currently-worth-it--/
  • k_man
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    edited 9 July 2022 at 9:54AM
    These aren't true fixes.
    Albeit they have so far behaved like fixes.

    MSE would be in for quite a roasting if they were recommending these to less casual website users, and Octopus then change the terms.
  • Mstty
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    edited 9 July 2022 at 10:00AM
    They are fixed capped for 12 months and even hitting their cap rates lower than traditional fixes being offered by Octopus

    I disagree and they should have been advertised as money saving by Martin Lewis and the team here. There have been many posts on this forum about these products but they haven't picked them up.

    Lots of Octopus members will have lost out.

    They certainly didn't rule out fixes in their table with Utility Warehouse with its need to take on two other products and not quite a traditional fix. They should have included these products

    All IMO👍

  • k_man
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    edited 9 July 2022 at 10:14AM
    Mstty said:
    They are fixed capped for 12 months and even hitting their cap rates lower than traditional fixes being offered by Octopus

    I disagree and they should have been advertised as money saving by Martin Lewis and the team here. There have been many posts on this forum about these products but they haven't picked them up.

    Lots of Octopus members will have lost out.

    They certainly didn't rule out fixes in their table with Utility Warehouse with its need to take on two other products and not quite a traditional fix. They should have included these products

    All IMO👍

    The contract is fixed to 12 months, but the SC can be changed (with notice), so not fixed.
    Likewise the method used to calculate the daily/TOU cost can be changed (with notice), so also is not fixed.
    The cap is also not explicitly mentioned in any specific terms for Tracker or Agile, albeit it is stated on the website.
    And Octopus have stated via Twitter the cap could change.

    So IMO, while they currently look like, and behave like fixed, the rates and caps are not fixed.
  • Mstty
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    Absolute rubbish IMO. They are fixed caps well below the projected 14-15p for gas and 43-45p for electricity this October.

    The fact they have been ignored by the "deals" team at MSE is a disgrace IMO

    We have differing views here which I accept👍
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